On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 5:08 PM Kevin Stange <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > By supporting only even numbered releases as is the case now, it has not > been possible to do hot migration based upgrades which means that we > have to do full reboots of our entire environment every so often. Right > now we're running on Xen 4.8 and transitioning to 4.12 directly. We > skipped 4.10 because we felt that 4.12 has been out and stable for long > enough. Ideally if every major build of Xen were provided we would > transition by hot migrations up to the next release periodically and > stay on a security supported release each time one is going toward EOL. > > Personally I would love to see at the very least transitional packages > for each Xen version available to allow for easier hot migrations to the > latest release, under the assumption that such migrations are considered > "supported" upstream. I believe you said this was to be expected in a > previous conversation we had on IRC. The original purpose of only doing every other release was to make sure that maintenance of the packages wouldn't take too much of our time; but I think at the current state of things, updating ever release should be fine. (Particularly now that we've spread out releases again.) > I don't really think we should drop a release before its security > support ends, unless we have *really clear* communication to repo users > as to the life cycles of these builds in advance. Indeed, the purpose of this email is in fact to make such a clear communication. Citrix (i.e., Anthony & I) have committed to providing up-to-date packages for one version at a time; this is meant to give people input into which version that is. The Virt SIG cannot as a whole commit to supporting releases until security support ends unless others step up and make commitments to do so. > I get why providing updates for 5 major releases concurrently is > prohibitive for the entire security support period, though if it were > more automated, maybe it would be easier to manage. Indeed; I think the main barrier to having the whole thing automated from xen.git/staging-VV to mirror.centos.org is testing. If we had at least a reasonable subset of automated testing between buildlogs and mirror, I'd feel comfortable with an automated push. Alternately, if people were comfortable with "the community has 1 week to test and object before an automated push happens", we could do that too. -George _______________________________________________ CentOS-virt mailing list CentOS-virt@xxxxxxxxxx https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt
