On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 10:25 PM, denis bahati <djbahati@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Team, > > Thanks for the good explanation. > > If that is not workable for the database, can anyone recommend me for the > setup of the database clients and data files in order to achieve HA and load > balancing? How should I set up my VMs and stations (Two machines with two > VMs each)? I will appreciate for a workable approach and that is practical > for the HA/Load balancing. It depends on what database product you're using. If it's Oracle Database Server it's designed to work with shared devices/file systems. You shouldn't have a problem running it in an active/active (load balanced) configuration. If it's MySQL/MariaDB the best you can hope for, as far as I know, is an active/passive configuration with replication. I'm guessing you're using MySQL. Make your database highly available in an active/passive configuration with replication and use some sort of failover (heartbeat, carp, etc) or a network load balancer. Depending on your application you can still run it in a active/active (load balanced) configuration. > > Regards > > ________________________________ > From: Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: denis bahati <djbahati@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Discussion about the virtualization > on CentOS <centos-virt@xxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: "brett@xxxxxxxxxxx" <brett@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, 4 July 2013, 18:32 > > Subject: Re: KVM virtual machine and SAN storage with FC > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 12:44 AM, denis bahati <djbahati@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Hi Brett, >> >> On my plan is as follows: >> >> I have two machine (Server) that will host two VM each. One for database >> and >> one for application. Then the two machine will provide (Load Balance and >> High availability). My intention is that all application files and data >> file >> for the database should reside on the SAN storage for easy access and >> update. > > Don't... do this. Two database clients writing to the same database > filesystem back ends, simultaneously, is an enormous source of excited > sounding flow charts and proposals which simply do not work and are > very, very likely to corrupt your database beyond recover. These > problems have been examined, for *decades* with shared home > directories and saved email and for high performance or clustered > databases that need to not have "split brain" skew, It Does Not Work. > > Set up a proper database *cluster* with distinct back ends. > >> Therefore the storage should be accessible to both VMs through mounting >> the >> SAN storage to the VMs. The connection between SAN storage and the servers >> is through Fiber Channel. > > Survey says *bzzzt*. See above for databases. For shared storage, you > should really be using some sort of network based access to a > filesystem back end. NetApp and EMC spend *billions* in research > building high availability shared storage, and even they don't pull > stunts like this the last I looked. I can vaguely imagine one of the > hosts doing write access and the other having read-only access. But > really, most databases today support good clustering configurations > that avoid precisely these issues. > >> I have seen somewhere talking about DM-Multipath but i dont know if this >> can >> help or the use of VT-d if can help. I will also appreciate if you provide >> some links to give me insight of how to do this. > > Multipath does not mean "multiple clients of the same hardware > storage". That's effectively like letting two kernels write to the > same actual disk at the same time, and it's quite dangerous. > > Now, if you want each client to access their own fiber channel disk > resource, that should be workable. Even if you have to mount the fiber > channel resources on the KVM host, and make disk images for the KVM > guest, that should at least get you a testable resource. But the > normal approach is have a fiber channel storage server that makes disk > images available via NFS, so that the guest VM's can be migrated from > one server to another with the shared storage more safely. > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS-virt mailing list > CentOS-virt@xxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt > _______________________________________________ CentOS-virt mailing list CentOS-virt@xxxxxxxxxx http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt