Re: Introducing ConVirt 2.0

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On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Christopher G. Stach II <cgs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
----- "Pasi Kärkkäinen" <pasik@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
> RHEL/CentOS doesn't provide web-based management.. or even easy
> multi-host / cluster management of virtualization nodes.
>
> -- Pasi

Are there any *good* reasons? (Since I really hate commercials, I feel compelled to present my contrarian viewpoint.) ConVirt addresses a pretty small portion of the virtualization landscape, and it consists of only a few significant parts:

1. Do what other free and open tools already do.
2. Slap a web interface on it!
3. Spam lists.
4. Rope in suckers.

The suggestion that a web interface is a value add to an infrastructure issue is at least insulting. You could attempt to slap a web interface on a fuel injection system (or maybe at least give access to the magic a la MegaSquirt), but a bunch of assholes are still going to blow something up. It's not going to give any admin worth his or her salt a boner because it's not readily scriptable and it amounts to candy for retards. Secondly, everything else that it does is already there. If you can't do it, you shouldn't be touching the machines.

The tool may or may not address some vanilla installations (if there ever was one), but if you need something like that, you are probably better off with EC2 or at least letting someone else handle it.

--
Christopher G. Stach II
http://ldsys.net/~cgs/


As these tools become more mature I'd like to see some comparisons because I too get a little tired of all the hype surrounding 20 tools that do exactly the same thing. I played with Convirt quite a while ago but it either didn't install right or didn't work right. Version 2.0 looks better. But then we have Eucalyptus, Enomalism, Convirt, Orchestra, Xen Admin, DTC-Xen, Cloudmin and I'd guess a whole bunch more. I wrote my own for classroom purposes that reads a roster and lets me act on whole classes of machines. I didn't release it because I think we have enough Xen guis. What we need to do is combine resources and make one real GOOD one.

Grant McWilliams



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