Re: reference page for Apache test page & the project

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On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Trevor Hemsley <trevor.hemsley@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 23/06/18 21:03, John R. Dennison wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 04:58:21PM -0700, Karsten Wade wrote:
>> * Is there a better page I can point at?
> 'Better' is quite subjective; however this all goes back to
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20060523223519/https://www.centos.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=127
>
> and is as good of a reference as any.
>
> I would urge someone to scrape the gist of that thread and preserve it
> on wiki.c.o somewhere.
>
> If no one else does I will do it later today or tomorrow when I have a
> bit of time and motivation.

You know, perhaps this is approaching this from the wrong direction.
Maybe the correct solution would be to change that welcome page to be
more explicit about what it is and why it's there so the question
doesn't arise in the first place. It *is* better than it used to be but
it could be better. If we just move the "The CentOS Project has nothing
to do with this website or its content, it just provides the software
that makes the website run." up to immediately after the "This server
powered by CentOS" under the Testing 123... heading.

Does the attached patch make it more clear more easily? It gets the
essential message into the top paragrpah which is the one that gets
read. Having it off the bottom of the page where it resides in the
current version means you're reliant on people advancing to the next page.

Trevor



How long does one need to be in IT to realize that people simply will not read things, period?  Adding more text to an already long-winded page that clearly no one is reading will not solve the problem.

The only solution is to eschew vanity completely and make a page that has nothing but "Testing 123" or something equally terse, and possibly mentioning Apache, if that is a requirement somewhere.  The only mention of CentOS, should be the "powered by" badge and that's it.  I would remove the "powered by CentOS" in the blue header, and then ALL of the text "About CentOS" and below.  I understand the intention of trying to help users and admins, but it clearly isn't.

As we have seen in the past, this page causes well-known problems, and afaik provides almost no benefit so should be removed.

~ Brian Mathis
@orev


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