Marco Verschuur wrote: > Your assumption that the same file descriptor is being re-opened is > wrong! The file descriptor retrieved via /proc is a new one. It is > not the same as the initial read-only. Yes, I totally agree. > Therefor it's totally of no influence what you do with the original > directory permission. File access has nothing to do with directory > permissions...! Right. However the whole point of this discussion is that that is a non-obvious point, there was no other way that the user could have opened that file without the use of /proc. > Imagen: > - a house surrounded with a fence with all doors unlocked (file with > perm 0666) > - a drive-way leads to the gate in the fence and the gate is unlocked > (dir with perms 777) > - next we put a lock on the gate and don't give guest the key (dir with > perms 700) > - guest cannot access the house because he can't pass the gate > - now we take an airplane and parachute guest straight into the > perimeter of the fence (/proc access) > - guest can access the house (write the file), because the house has all > doors unlocked Pavel required that the superuser have lax directory permisisons and subsequently make them more restrictive, which led to a flurry of responses about hardlinks, race conditions, etc. My example merely removed this aspect to demonstrate that it is not a race. In mine, the directory permissions are 0700 from the start and there are no races involved. -jim