Hi Michal, Yes, we all know that. The flaw here was not looping on itself a thousands of times, wow. It was a DOM implementation flaw. That's what made it interesting. A border case that was not accounted for. That's all, still interesting. I don't see how Javascripts endless loops are similar at all - sorry. MZ> There are literally thousands of HTML- and JavaScript-related denial MZ> of service vectors in modern browsers. If you want a silly, ad hoc MZ> example I just made up on the spot (and so could any reader of the MZ> list), try: MZ> foo = '<marquee>'; MZ> for (i=0;i<7;i++) foo += foo; MZ> for (i=0;i<10000;i++) document.write(foo); -- http://blog.zoller.lu Thierry Zoller