>From your paper: >>It is noteworthy that it has taken 19 months since the initial general availability of IE7 (public release October 2006) to reach 52.5% proliferation amongst users that navigate the Internet with Microsoft's Web browser. Meanwhile, 92.2% of Firefox users have migrated to FF2. Could this be due to the fact that Mozilla stops supporting, and issuing updates for old versions just a few months after the release of a new one? Larry Seltzer eWEEK.com Security Center Editor http://security.eweek.com/ http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/ Contributing Editor, PC Magazine larry.seltzer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: Larry Seltzer Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:26 PM To: 'Stefan Frei'; bugtraq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: New Paper: More than 600 million users surf at high risk A reply from Robert Hensing at Microsoft (http://blogs.technet.com/robert_hensing/archive/2008/07/01/vulnerable-w eb-browser-study-full-of-fail.aspx) says that your study did not include minor version information for Internet Explorer, probably because such information is not reported in the user-agent string. But fully-patched copies of IE5 and IE6 are not insecure in the same way as an unsupported version; Microsoft is still supporting them. So is it true that your study calls anyone running IE7 secure, and anyone running IE5 or IE6 insecure, regardless of their patch levels? Larry Seltzer eWEEK.com Security Center Editor http://security.eweek.com/ http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/ Contributing Editor, PC Magazine larry.seltzer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: stefan.frei@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:stefan.frei@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stefan Frei Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:40 AM To: bugtraq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: New Paper: More than 600 million users surf at high risk Hi List, For the last 18 month we analyzed the daily USER-AGENT data collected by Google's Web search and application servers around the world to study how users patch and update their Web browsers. We came out that approximately 637 million (or 45.2 percent) users currently surf the Web on a daily basis with an out-of-date browser - i.e. not running a current, fully patched Web browser version. And this is only the tip of what we call the "Insecurity Iceberg", not counting all the vulnerable browser plug-ins. One of the new concepts we came up for combating the inadequacies of Web browser patching was that of applying the food industries "Best Before" date to the Web browser and its plug-ins. Paper: Understanding the Web browser threat: Examination of vulnerable online Web browser populations and the "insecurity iceberg" Authors - Stefan Frei, Communication Systems Group, ETH Zurich, Switzerland - Thomas Duebendorfer, Google Switzerland GmbH - Gunter Ollmann, IBM Internet Security Systems, USA - Martin May, Communication Systems Group, ETH Zurich, Switzerland Paper Download: http://www.techzoom.net/insecurity-iceberg Regards Stefan Frei