>>WRT the DMA access over FireWire it's but a bad response since it doesn't get the point! >>1. Drive encryption won't help against reading the memory. >>2. The typical user authentication won't help, we're at hardware level >> here, and no OS needs to be involved. >>3. The computer is up (and running; see above), no hibernate or sleep >> is involved here. So on a freshly-booted system with drive encryption you can read whatever you want on the disk? >>4. Group policies can be circumvented, even by a limited user. >> <http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/archive/2005/12/12/circumventi ng-group-policy-as-a-limited-user.aspx> What he says is that some group policies, not including system-wide security settings, maybe circumvented, even by a limited user. Larry Seltzer eWEEK.com Security Center Editor http://security.eweek.com/ http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/ Contributing Editor, PC Magazine larry.seltzer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx