I actually was able to reproduce this attack multiple times, and did verify that there was an enable secret password configured(as well as multiple User/Passwords on the TTY line, not that they should matter) . I will not be in my lab until Tuesday of next week, but I will reproduce this again and copy the exact configuration. I can not really argue any points until then. I really appreciate you'll looking into the matter. Again this was reproduced on a PIX 515E running v7.2 of Finesse. Terry Bunn,CCNA tbbunn@xxxxxxx