This may be far off course but with all the discussions of VMWare as a safe sandbox that has broad security value it seems we have to pay attention to the assumptions. IF the virtual machine is operating properly, it can provide a level of sandboxing and restrict session privileges for that instance of the machine. However, the most common exploit in software continues to be memory leakages or buffer overflows. It seems to me that the code that can be injected through the most common attack vector (buffer overflows) executes with full privileges of the real hosting machine, there would be little benefit to the virtualization. Am I missing something here? Is there a way that the arbitrary code injected through a buffer overflow can be constrained in the logical machine? It seems to me the VM can't provide this protection??? KWK -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Corliss [mailto:corliss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:49 PM To: M. Burnett Cc: bugtraq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: VMWare poor guest isolation design On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, M. Burnett wrote: > I have run across a design issue in VMware's scripting automation API that > diminishes VM guest/host isolation in such a manner to facilitate privilege > escalation, spreading of malware, and compromise of guest operating systems. > > VMware's scripting API allows a malicious script on the host machine to > execute programs, open URLs, and perform other privileged operations on any > guest operating system open at the console, without requiring any > credentials on the guest operating system. Furthermore, the script can > execute programs even if you lock the desktop of the guest OS. > > For example, if a non-admin user is logged in at the vm host, but logged in > to guest operating systems as an administrator, the script running as a > non-admin on the host can still execute admin-level scripts on the guests. > > I obviously did not discover this issue--the API developers provided it as a > feature-I am simply pointing out the potential danger, that it was a poor > design decision, and that there is a need to establish best practices for > virtual machine guest and host isolation. I don't see this as a serious problem. This is the virtual equivalent of no physical security. If the host OS (or an account within it) is compromised, of course all bets are off when it comes to a virtual machine running within it. Furthermore, this attack only works if you are running the vmware guest utilities *and* you are currently logged into a GUI desktop running the vmware userland process. I personally look at this as an issue for Windows. I personally don't install the vmware guest software for my Linux VMs, nor would I log into a GUI as root. For that matter, if you are merely hosting the guest VMs why would you need to ever use the vmware console after installation? Use a network-based access method, making the need for the vmware guest utilities unnecessary. That should be sufficient for all OS'es. In (not so) short, this attack vector is virtually worthless if reasonable security practices are employed. --Arthur Corliss Live Free or Die