On 5/17/07, David Cantrell wrote:
graham.coles wrote: > They already have total access to all your files, there would appear to be > nothing more to gain from this. Perhaps you do (in which case I recommend you stop), but I don't store all my information in files, and of that which I do, not all those files are merely protected by my standard login and password. Some, such as how I authenticate to my bank, are stored in a gpg-encrypted file in case I ever forget. Others, such as my gpg passphrase, live only in my head. Trust me, merely logging in as me won't help anyone get at those data.
> Someone has *ROOT* access to your system REMOTELY over ssh and you're > worried that they might be able to retrieve a password from your keychain. Yes, it would be annoying if someone rooted my laptop. It would be a lot more annoying if they not only rooted my laptop but also cleaned out my bank account via my browser.
If someone roots your laptop, they won't have to muck around with carefully timed javascript injection via applescript. They'll grab your keychain files, and install a keylogger to grab the password they need to decrypt it, as well as any passwords that aren't in the keychain. If they're impatient, they can lock your keychain, so you're forced to enter your password the very next time you want anything out of it. Of course, then they'd risk discovery. Easier to sit tight and let you type it at a normal time. As many people have pointed out before, you can install a keylogger for a single user via an input manager, without getting root. You need only execution under that one user's credentials. Of course, on a (nearly) single-user machine, that comes out to largely the same thing.
It *is* somewhat disturbing that root can so trivially interfere with the guts of someone else's processes. Normally, root has to do a lot of work to do that.
"su someone-else" really isn't a lot of work. Regards Mark
