On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 06:48:30PM -0000, Mark Litchfield wrote: > I have heard the comment "It's a huge conflict of interest" for one company > to provide both an operating platform and a security platform" made by John > Thompson (CEO Symantec) many times from many different people. [...] My take on this statement: it's a polite way of pointing out the scam-artist-like behavior for someone selling known-insecure software and then charging you extra to secure it. "Oh, you wanted the version *without* built-in vulnerabilities?" -- { IRL(Jeremy_Stanley); PGP(9E8DFF2E4F5995F8FEADDC5829ABF7441FB84657); SMTP(fungi@xxxxxxxxxxx); IRC(fungi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx#ccl); ICQ(114362511); AIM(dreadazathoth); YAHOO(crawlingchaoslabs); FINGER(fungi@xxxxxxxxxxx); MUD(fungi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:6669); WWW(http://fungi.yuggoth.org/); }