Mark Litchfield wrote: > I have heard the comment "It's a huge conflict of interest" for one > company to provide both an operating platform and a security platform" > made by John Thompson (CEO Symantec) many times from many different > people. See article below. > > http://www2.csoonline.com/blog_view.html?CID=32554 > > In my personal opinion, regardless of the vendor, if they create an > OS, why would it be a conflict of interest for them to want to protect > their own OS from attack. One would assume that this is a responsible > approach by the vendor, but one could also argue that their OS should > be coded securely in the first place. If this were to happen then the > need for the Symantec's, McAfee's of the world would some what diminsh. I've done both: sold a security enhancement for someone else's OS (Immunix) and now I'm responsible for that same technology as part of SUSE Linux (AppArmor). I have no idea how Thompson gets his conflict of interest. It makes no sense to me. I agree with Litchfield that it is an OS vendor's responsibility to secure their OS as best they can, and using intrusion prevention technologies is perfectly fair game. However, Microsoft is a special case, because they have been legally found to be a monopoly, and so special laws apply. So what Microsoft can legally do may be different from what Red Hat, Novell, or Sun can do. I am not a lawyer, so I won't speculate on what those differences might be. Is Thompson talking about OS vendors in general having a conflict of interest? Or just referring to Microsoft's monopoly status? I can't tell, but it sounds like the former, and that sounds wrong. Crispin -- Crispin Cowan, Ph.D. http://crispincowan.com/~crispin/ Director of Software Engineering http://novell.com AppArmor Training at CanSec West http://cansecwest.com/dojoapparmor.html