Even then you shouldnt forget, most people remove the install directory normally after installation/upgrade or protect it like other sensitive directories (admincp, modcp, include ...) with a additional .htaccess file (for example). Regards, Robert -----Original Message----- From: mikathebest2003@xxxxxxxx [mailto:mikathebest2003@xxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 11:01 AM To: bugtraq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Re: vBulletin 3.5.4 (install_path) Exploit Quote: The default vBulletin requires authentication prior to the usage of the upgrade system and the backup feature. Well, but tell me when I will find a way to crack this requires authentication, then it will be possible to download every database. And this requires authenication dont look really secure, well when i have find a way, i will contact vbulletin. Cheers! Michael www.pldsoft.com Security Group