On Fri, 24 Feb 2006, Matthew Schiros wrote: > PHP, like any and all projects, does indeed have security flaws. So > does MySQL. So does Linux. So does sshd. So does Windows. To claim > that we should abandon any individual service simply because it has > security bugs is absurd. Yes, there are non-trivial problems with > PHP's memory management, but the same could easily be said for Java as > well. You may be missing an important point, here. Not all security flaws are alike. We can divide security flaws into two catagories. Those catagories are Design Flaws and Implementation Flaw. Implementation flaws can lead to serious problems, but from a security perspective, they are easier to deal with because correcting them is likely to make the behavior of the afflicted programs more like what the users expect. That is, assuming the documentation accurately reflects the programmer's intentions, correcting implementation flaws should usually make the program's behavior more consistent with the documentation. Design flaw, on the other hand, are more serious, because correcting those flaws can mean breaking program behaviors that the user was told he could count on. Vendors live with their bad designs for years, simply to avoid upsetting user expectations. While you are correct that sshd and Java have occasional flaws with security implications, not all security flaws are alike. sshd and Java were more carefully designed than many other tools in this business, and the Linux community is much quicker to abandon badly flawed designs than some other communities. You can't make meaningful comparisons on security by simply counting flaws. Adrian ----------------------------------------- This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the individual or company to which it is addressed and may contain information which is privileged, confidential and prohibited from disclosure or unauthorized use under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, or copying of this e-mail or the information contained in this e-mail is strictly prohibited by the sender. If you have received this transmission in error, please return the material received to the sender and delete all copies from your system.