Jason Haar <Jason.Haar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >Thunderbird explicitly allows you "TLS, if available" - which appears to >be what you refer to. However, there is a "TLS" - which means only do >TLS - and alert if the TLS certificate presented doesn't match a known >one (which would happen in a MITM). > >Are you referring to a bug in their "TLS" mode - or implying that "TLS, >if available" is somehow not... what it says it is...??? > >Doesn't sound like a hole to me. The "TLS, if available" option is common to most MUAs and is a serious security problem. Thunderbird has other security-related user interface problems. For example, the account setup wizard creates accounts with insecure settings by default and then encourages users to log in immediately and compromise their passwords. http://www.livejournal.com/users/fanf/39428.html Tony. -- f.a.n.finch <dot@xxxxxxxx> http://dotat.at/ LOUGH FOYLE TO CARLINGFORD LOUGH: SOUTHWEST 4 OR 5 INCREASING 6 OR 7 FOR A TIME WEATHER: SHOWERS DYING OUT, RAIN LATER VISIBILITY: MODERATE OR GOOD. MODERATE, BECOMING ROUGH IN NORTH