>From http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms05-009.mspx under the FAQ section: "Can I use the Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer (MBSA) to determine if this update is required? MBSA will determine if this update is required for Windows Media Player. MBSA will not determine if this update is required for Windows Messenger or MSN Messenger. It will provide a note message to this effect. See Microsoft Knowledge Base Article 306460 for information regarding note messages in MBSA. Microsoft has made available an Enterprise Update Scanning Tool (EST) to assist customers with the detection of needed security updates not currently supported by MBSA. For detailed information about the programs that MBSA currently does not detect, see Microsoft Knowledge Base Article 306460" Microsoft actually did a great job of recognizing the fact that the MBSA doesn't detect flaws in Windows Messenger yet people still need to scan and developing a tool for you to do so. If you read the FAQ you could be scanning your network right now instead of complaining about a known limitation with the MBSA ;) Best, Richard Threlkeld Microsoft MVP - SMS http://myitforum.techtarget.com/blog/rthrelkeld/ -----Original Message----- From: James Lay [mailto:jlay@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 6:41 AM To: BuqtraqNT (E-mail); BugtraqSecurity (E-mail) Subject: RE: Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer not seeing KB887742 and KB88 6185 Correction Ok....so it's actually KB887472 which was the other one....which is an MSN Security Update. Yea...MS needs to fix this ASAP for MBSA. James -----Original Message----- From: James Lay [mailto:jlay@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 11:24 AM To: BuqtraqNT (E-mail); BugtraqSecurity (E-mail); Full-Disclosure (E-mail) Subject: Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer not seeing KB887742 and KB88 6185 Subject line says it all....just did a fresh install of WinXP SP2....was using MBSAFU to make sure it would patch...which it did. However Windows Update shows still needing KB887742 and KB886185. MBSA shows no critical patches need updated. Systeminfo shows that both KB887742 and KB886185 are NOT installed. I'm using latest MBSA. Anyone else see this? Kinda sucks :( James Lay Network Manager/Security Officer AmeriBen Solutions/IEC Group Deo Gloria!!!