I'm using aterm 0.4.2 on my gentoo 2004.1 box. It looks like this: cokane@schizophreniac:~> ls -l /dev/pts/16 crw--w---- 1 cokane tty 136, 16 Jul 14 00:09 /dev/pts/16 That is with mesg y. And I checked, it -is- pts/16. On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 12:04, Maarten Tielemans wrote: > Aterm has an issue with creating a terminal. > > A quick ls al on a aterm with mesg y shows: > crw--w--w- 1 alsdk users 5, 3 Jul 13 17:27 /dev/ttyp3 > with mesg n: > crw-----w- 1 alsdk users 5, 3 Jul 13 17:28 /dev/ttyp3 > > 1) World (nobody) is able to echo or cat towards the terminal > echo hello >> /dev/ttyp3 > cat mkdir >> /dev/ttyp3 > 2) The group seems to be incorrect, a normal terminal has default group tty > > A xterm with mesg y shows : > crw--w---- 1 ttielu tty 5, 5 Jul 13 17:27 ttyp5 > and with mesg n : > crw------- 1 ttielu tty 5, 5 Jul 13 17:27 ttyp5 > > Advice: use xterm > > Bug found by TTIelu, reverse engineered by alsdk and TTIelu