This is a functionality regression that has been around for some time. The weird part of the MS04-011 patch is that it only occurs on Windows 2003. KB261328: Cipher Strength Appears as 0-Bit in Internet Explorer http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=261328 SYMPTOMS In Microsoft Internet Explorer, you may experience the following behaviors: When you click About Internet Explorer on the Help menu, the Cipher Strength value is 0-bit. -and- You cannot connect to and view Web pages on secure Web sites. CAUSE This behavior can occur if the Schannel.dll, Rsabase.dll, or Rsaenh.dll files are missing, damaged, or of the incorrect version. Regards Thor Larholm Senior Security Researcher PivX Solutions 24 Corporate Plaza #180 Newport Beach, CA 92660 http://www.pivx.com thor@pivx.com Phone: +1 (949) 231-8496 PGP: 0x5A276569 6BB1 B77F CB62 0D3D 5A82 C65D E1A4 157C 5A27 6569 PivX defines "Proactive Threat Mitigation". Get a FREE Beta Version of Qwik-Fix <http://www.qwik-fix.net> -----Original Message----- From: Technoboy [mailto:technoboy@packetswar.org] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:04 AM To: full-disclosure@lists.netsys.com Subject: [Full-Disclosure] MS04-011 Break SSL support in IE 6.0.3790.0 with Windows 2003 Hello everyone, A warning to all Windows 2003 user, this happened on two machine who had the exact same software configuration but different hardware. After installing the latest set of patches from microsoft, I was unable to access sites using SSL, after some investigation it turned out that my IE Cipher strength was set to 0bit ... After lot of troubleshooting and tryout with the different solutions offered by Microsoft I decided to take a guess and uninstall the MS04-011 patch... Well, the problem solved itself, the IE Cipher Strength is now at 128 like it was before, I can now access sites using SSL, windowsupdate, msn, etc Weird ... Anyone experienced something similar, or its just me ? _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html