>Then one just writes a perl extension in C. Who's responsible >then? But don't you need root to add extentions? >Who's responsible if you just write a C module which hijacks the >descriptors? Again, you need an admin to update apache's config. >Where do you draw the line? I would think apache should have a safe and defined interface between itself and modules. I cannot possibly think of any file descriptor besides 0, 1, &2 that a module would need. The logs should be stderr, the module should open a descriptor itself, or apache have an API just for that purpose. Xinetd, stunnel, and sshd can all run completely untrusted applications without leaking their listening descriptor. Why can't apache? Its not just mod_perl, mod_php leaks the https descriptor, too. -Steve Grubb __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/