>Automatic system updates are nothing new, we see it all the time with >antivirus software. Given that the enduser has agreed for his AV to be >updated automatically This is the crux of the issue; I believe Stefan's point was that he did not--actively--agree to the update. If there was a "click to update" button, an option to enable or disable automatic updates (like AV software), or even a message saying "your software will now be updated, click here to cancel" (like the PlayOnline game service offered by Square), the issue would be different, but my impression is that there were none of those. Not only does this raise legal issues, at least in countries with reasonably sane laws, but think of all the faulty patches Microsoft has released in the past; while the Xbox is a closed system and thus easy to test, how would you like to come into work one morning and find all your Longhorn servers bluescreened and unbootable because a critical security patch broke your Acme Super-RAID driver? --Andrew Church achurch@achurch.org http://achurch.org/