I wouldn't consider this a bug. It is like me writing a script that kills any process named "ScreenSaverEngine". If I run it with my privileges it should allow me to kill the process (assuming I own ScreenSaverEngine). Escape Pod does what it is meant to. OS X does what it is meant to--that is unless you are suggesting that the operating system not allow the user to kill the screen saver process which is just stupid because I have had my screen saver crash on me. -Riz -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Haruksteiner [mailto:haruk@gmx.at] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:56 PM To: Doug White Subject: Re: Another Mac OS X ScreenSaver Security Issue (after Security Update 2003-07-14) On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 10:07 h, Doug White wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Patrick Haruksteiner wrote: > >> I discoverd another security issue with the Mac OS X screensaver. >> If you have installed escapepod from Ambrosia Software and hit >> crtl-alt-delete(==backspace) when the screensaver with password >> protection is running, it kills the screensaver and the desktop is >> open to anybody - so it has the same effect as the recently >> emerged password-exploit. > > This is not a bug in Apple software. This is a third party extension. > > Ambrosia's Escape Pod is a utility that kills the frontmost app when > the > shortcut keystroke is typed. Naturally it does not ship with MacOS X. > > Since the screen saver is just another application (called > ScreenSaverEngine), if you hit the kill key when its running, it gets > killed. Fancy that! I know that! But it should be the concern of the OS that you cannot circumvent its security system with the help of other applications! -- harp