Hi, The following quote from David Litchfield appeared in a front-page article in today's Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57550-2003Jan28.html "You have this ideal vision of doing something for the greater good," said David Litchfield, managing director of Next Generation Security Software Ltd. of London, who acknowledged that a small bit of his code might have been used in the attack. "I will probably no longer publish such code." Perhaps David can put together a longer message for Bugtraq and Full-Disclosure on his changing views of publishing proof-of-concept code for security vulnerabilities. Richard M. Smith http://www.ComputerBytesMan.com