Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: > If the worm had a malicious (in your terms) payload, it would have > caused networks just as many problems (so no gain there), and more harm > to MS-SQL users. Using your logic, surely this much more damaging > experience would have cause MS-SQL admins to be more responsible in > keeping up to date ? Or rather, more fearful of future exploits. Precisely my point. Sapphire was not designed to inspire fear. If this had been a terrorist act it would have done so, and it could have done so. It did not. In my mind Sapphire inspires confidence that somebody, somewhere might actually be thinking for a change. Unfortunate inconveniences aside, anything actually *damaged* by Sapphire (in a physical/non-trivial sense of the word) was too vulnerable for use in the first place. Sincerely, Jason Coombs jasonc@science.org