On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 10:06:27PM -0000, spam_bucket@mac.com wrote: > In-Reply-To: <86vg75xg18.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> > > Actually all I did was click on the SSL button and it seems to do everything over > SSL now. I'm using 10.1.5 and it "just works" and I cant see the stream anymore. As > a side effect it seems to also protect all of the email as well. I took a look w/ tcpdump, Mail.app IMAP+SSL appears to be fine, nicely obfuscated. Mail.app authenticated SMTP through smtp.mac.com appears to try to start TLS, but the connection closes, a new port 25 connection is opened and AUTH happens in the clear (AUTH=PLAIN) and the message is sent in the clear. -eric