Sorry that last statement i made was only correct for version 4. In version 5 it seems to be encrypted here is the packet dump for version 4: GET /config/ncclogin?.src=bl&login=wav_boy2&passwd=notmyrealone&n=1 there is more but that is the important part __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com