Hi <snip> >As to the System and Sys accounts having defaulted passwords, the last time I >installed 9i it made me change them at the time of install. The accounts were >also locked, and not accessible, until I went in as INTERNAL and modified them. >I find this to be somewhat acceptable behaviour. </snip> Hate to be pernickety but the INTERNAL access was deprecated in 8i and removed altogether in 9i but I agree the situation in 9i with default account access and passwords is far better in 9i. regards Pete Finnigan -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager at admin@pentest-limited.com -- Pete Finnigan IT Security Consultant PenTest Limited Office 01565 830 990 Fax 01565 830 889 Mobile 07974 087 885 pete.finnigan@pentest-limited.com www.pentest-limited.com