Re: [PATCH v2 bpf-next 7/7] selftests/bpf: BPF register range bounds tester

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On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 12:30 AM Shung-Hsi Yu <shung-hsi.yu@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 09:24:05PM -0700, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> > Add tests that validate correctness and completeness of BPF verifier's
> > register range bounds.
>
> Nitpick: in abstract-interpretation-speak, completeness seems to mean
> something different. I believe what we're trying to check here is
> soundness[1], again, in abstraction-interpretation-speak), so using
> completeness here may be misleading to some. (I'll leave explanation to
> other that understand this concept better than I do, rather than making an
> ill attempt that would probably just make things worst)

I'll just say "Add test to validate BPF verifier's register range
bounds tracking logic." to avoid terminology hazards :)

>
> > The main bulk is a lot of auto-generated tests based on a small set of
> > seed values for lower and upper 32 bits of full 64-bit values.
> > Currently we validate only range vs const comparisons, but the idea is
> > to start validating range over range comparisons in subsequent patch set.
>
> CC Langston Barrett who had previously send kunit-based tnum checks[2] a
> while back. If this patch is merged, perhaps we can consider adding
> validation for tnum as well in the future using similar framework.
>
> More comments below
>
> > When setting up initial register ranges we treat registers as one of
> > u64/s64/u32/s32 numeric types, and then independently perform conditional
> > comparisons based on a potentially different u64/s64/u32/s32 types. This
> > tests lots of tricky cases of deriving bounds information across
> > different numeric domains.
> >
> > Given there are lots of auto-generated cases, we guard them behind
> > SLOW_TESTS=1 envvar requirement, and skip them altogether otherwise.
> > With current full set of upper/lower seed value, all supported
> > comparison operators and all the combinations of u64/s64/u32/s32 number
> > domains, we get about 7.7 million tests, which run in about 35 minutes
> > on my local qemu instance. So it's something that can be run manually
> > for exhaustive check in a reasonable time, and perhaps as a nightly CI
> > test, but certainly is too slow to run as part of a default test_progs run.
>
> FWIW an alternative approach that speeds things up is to use model checkers
> like Z3 or CBMC. On my laptop, using Z3 to validate tnum_add() against *all*
> possible inputs takes less than 1.3 seconds[3] (based on code from [1]
> paper, but I somehow lost the link to their GitHub repository).
>
> One of the potential issue with [3] is that Z3Py is written in Python. So
> there's the large over head of translating the C-implementation into Python
> using Z3Py APIs each time we changed relevant code. This overhead could
> potentially be removed with CBMC, which understand C, and we had a
> precedence of using CBMC[4] within the kernel source code, though it was
> later removed[5] due because SRCU changes are still happening too fast for
> the format tests to keep up, so it looks like CBMC is not a silver-bullet.
>
> I really meant to look into the CMBC approach for verification of ranges and
> tnum, but fails to allocate time for it, so far.

It would be great if someone did a proper model checker-based
verification of range tracking logic of overall BPF verifier logic,
agreed. Until we have that (and depending on how easy it is to
integrate that approach into BPF CI), I think having something as part
of test_progs is a good practical step forward.

>
> Shung-Hsi
>
> > ...
>
> 1: https://people.cs.rutgers.edu/~sn349/papers/cgo-2022.pdf
> 2: https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20220430215727.113472-1-langston.barrett@xxxxxxxxx/
> 3: https://gist.github.com/shunghsiyu/a63e08e6231553d1abdece4aef29f70e
> 4: https://lore.kernel.org/all/1485295229-14081-3-git-send-email-paulmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/





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