Hi Paul, On 10/19/2023 12:54 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 09:07:07AM +0800, Hou Tao wrote: >> Hi Paul, >> >> On 10/19/2023 6:28 AM, Paul E. McKenney wrote: >>> bpf: Fold smp_mb__before_atomic() into atomic_set_release() >>> >>> The bpf_user_ringbuf_drain() BPF_CALL function uses an atomic_set() >>> immediately preceded by smp_mb__before_atomic() so as to order storing >>> of ring-buffer consumer and producer positions prior to the atomic_set() >>> call's clearing of the ->busy flag, as follows: >>> >>> smp_mb__before_atomic(); >>> atomic_set(&rb->busy, 0); >>> >>> Although this works given current architectures and implementations, and >>> given that this only needs to order prior writes against a later write. >>> However, it does so by accident because the smp_mb__before_atomic() >>> is only guaranteed to work with read-modify-write atomic operations, >>> and not at all with things like atomic_set() and atomic_read(). >>> >>> Note especially that smp_mb__before_atomic() will not, repeat *not*, >>> order the prior write to "a" before the subsequent non-read-modify-write >>> atomic read from "b", even on strongly ordered systems such as x86: >>> >>> WRITE_ONCE(a, 1); >>> smp_mb__before_atomic(); >>> r1 = atomic_read(&b); >> The reason is smp_mb__before_atomic() is defined as noop and >> atomic_read() in x86-64 is just READ_ONCE(), right ? > The real reason is that smp_mb__before_atomic() is not defined to do > anything unless followed by an atomic read-modify-write operation, > and atomic_read(), atomic_64read(), atomic_set(), and so on are not > read-modify-write operations. I see. Thanks for explanation. It seems I did not read Documentation/atomic_t.txt carefully, it said: The barriers: smp_mb__{before,after}_atomic() only apply to the RMW atomic ops and can be used to augment/upgrade the ordering inherent to the op. > > As you point out, one implementation consequence of this is that > smp_mb__before_atomic() is nothingness on x86. > >> And it seems that I also used smp_mb__before_atomic() in a wrong way for >> patch [1]. The memory order in the posted patch is >> >> process X process Y >> atomic64_dec_and_test(&map->usercnt) >> READ_ONCE(timer->timer) >> timer->time = t > The above two lines are supposed to be accessing the same field, correct? > If so, process Y's store really should be WRITE_ONCE(). Yes. These two processes are accessing the same field (namely timer->timer). Is WRITE_ONCE(xx) still necessary when the write of timer->time in process Y is protected by a spin-lock ? > >> // it won't work >> smp_mb__before_atomic() >> atomic64_read(&map->usercnt) >> >> For the problem, it seems I need to replace smp_mb__before_atomic() by >> smp_mb() to fix the memory order, right ? > Yes, because smp_mb() will order the prior store against that later load. Thanks. Will fix the patch. Regards, Hou > > Thanx, Paul > >> Regards, >> Hou >> >> [1]: >> https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20231017125717.241101-2-houtao@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/ >> >> >>> Therefore, replace the smp_mb__before_atomic() and atomic_set() with >>> atomic_set_release() as follows: >>> >>> atomic_set_release(&rb->busy, 0); >>> >>> This is no slower (and sometimes is faster) than the original, and also >>> provides a formal guarantee of ordering that the original lacks. >>> >>> Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxx> >>> Acked-by: David Vernet <void@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Cc: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@xxxxxxxxxx> >>> Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@xxxxxxxxxx> >>> Cc: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Cc: Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@xxxxxxxxx> >>> Cc: Song Liu <song@xxxxxxxxxx> >>> Cc: Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@xxxxxxxxx> >>> Cc: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@xxxxxxxxx> >>> Cc: KP Singh <kpsingh@xxxxxxxxxx> >>> Cc: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@xxxxxxxxxx> >>> Cc: Hao Luo <haoluo@xxxxxxxxxx> >>> Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@xxxxxxxxxx> >>> Cc: <bpf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>> diff --git a/kernel/bpf/ringbuf.c b/kernel/bpf/ringbuf.c >>> index f045fde632e5..0ee653a936ea 100644 >>> --- a/kernel/bpf/ringbuf.c >>> +++ b/kernel/bpf/ringbuf.c >>> @@ -770,8 +770,7 @@ BPF_CALL_4(bpf_user_ringbuf_drain, struct bpf_map *, map, >>> /* Prevent the clearing of the busy-bit from being reordered before the >>> * storing of any rb consumer or producer positions. >>> */ >>> - smp_mb__before_atomic(); >>> - atomic_set(&rb->busy, 0); >>> + atomic_set_release(&rb->busy, 0); >>> >>> if (flags & BPF_RB_FORCE_WAKEUP) >>> irq_work_queue(&rb->work); >>> >>> .