On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 17:14:39 -0700
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 02, 2023 at 07:10:23PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 16:25:27 -0400
> > Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > @@ -202,8 +198,12 @@ static inline struct tracepoint *tracepoint_ptr_deref(tracepoint_ptr_t *p)
> > > if (WARN_ON_ONCE(RCUIDLE_COND(rcuidle))) \
> > > return; \
> > > \
> > > - /* keep srcu and sched-rcu usage consistent */ \
> > > - preempt_disable_notrace(); \
> > > + if (mayfault) { \
> > > + rcu_read_lock_trace(); \
> >
> > I thought rcu_trace was for the case that a task can not voluntarily call
> > schedule. If this tracepoint tries to read user space memory that isn't
> > paged in, and faults, can't the faulting logic call schedule and break this
> > requirement?
>
> Well, additional new uses of rcu_read_lock_trace() do bear close scrutiny,
> but RCU Tasks Trace readers are permitted to block for page faults.
> The BPF folks already use it for this purpose, so this should be OK.
> (If for some unknown-to-me reason it isn't, I am sure that Alexei,
> who is on CC, will not suffer in silence.)
>
> One way of thinking of RCU Tasks Trace is as a form of SRCU with
> lightweight readers. Except that, unlike SRCU, there is only one global
> RCU Tasks Trace. This means that all RCU Tasks Trace users need to keep
> each other informed, because one users' unruly readers will affect all
> RCU Tasks Trace users.
>
> But given that the BPF folks already have page faults in RCU Tasks Trace
> readers, this one should be OK.
Then I think we should update the documentation.
From: Documentation/RCU/checklist.rst:
If the updater uses call_rcu_tasks() or synchronize_rcu_tasks(),
then the readers must refrain from executing voluntary
context switches, that is, from blocking. If the updater uses
call_rcu_tasks_trace() or synchronize_rcu_tasks_trace(), then
the corresponding readers must use rcu_read_lock_trace() and
rcu_read_unlock_trace(). If an updater uses call_rcu_tasks_rude()
or synchronize_rcu_tasks_rude(), then the corresponding readers
must use anything that disables preemption, for example,
preempt_disable() and preempt_enable().
Because it's all one paragraph it's a bit confusing to know what uses what.
Perhaps it should be broken up a bit more?
If the updater uses call_rcu_tasks() or synchronize_rcu_tasks(),
then the readers must refrain from executing voluntary
context switches, that is, from blocking.
If the updater uses call_rcu_tasks_trace() or
synchronize_rcu_tasks_trace(), then the corresponding readers must
use rcu_read_lock_trace() and rcu_read_unlock_trace().
If an updater uses call_rcu_tasks_rude() or synchronize_rcu_tasks_rude(),
then the corresponding readers must use anything that disables
preemption, for example, preempt_disable() and preempt_enable().
That way it is clear what uses what, as I read the original paragraph a
couple of times and could have sworn that rcu_read_lock_trace() required
tasks to not block.
-- Steve
