Re: [RFC PATCH bpf-next v5 2/2] bpf: Call rcu_momentary_dyntick_idle() in task work periodically

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Hi,

On 6/21/2023 9:20 AM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 6:07 PM Hou Tao <houtao@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 6/21/2023 12:15 AM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 7:00 AM Hou Tao <houtao@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> +static void bpf_rcu_gp_acc_work(struct callback_head *head)
>>>> +{
>>>> +       struct bpf_rcu_gp_acc_ctx *ctx = container_of(head, struct bpf_rcu_gp_acc_ctx, work);
>>>> +
>>>> +       local_irq_disable();
>>>> +       rcu_momentary_dyntick_idle();
>>>> +       local_irq_enable();
>>> We discussed this with Paul off-line and decided to go a different route.
>> "A different route" means the method used to reduce the memory footprint
>> is different or the method to do reuse-after-rcu-gp is different ?
> Pretty much everything is different.
I see.
>
>>> Paul prepared a patch for us to expose rcu_request_urgent_qs_task().
>>> I'll be sending the series later this week.
>> Do you plan to take over the reuse-after-rcu-gp patchset ?
> I took a different approach.
> It will be easier to discuss when I post patches.
> Hopefully later today or tomorrow.
Look forward to the new approach.
>
>> I did a quick test, it showed that the memory footprint is smaller and
>> the performance is similar when using rcu_request_urgent_qs_task()
>> instead of rcu_momentary_dyntick_idle().
> Right. I saw a similar effect as well.
> My understanding is that rcu_momentary_dyntick_idle() is a heavier mechanism
> and absolutely should not be used while holding rcu_read_lock().
> So calling from irq_work is not ok.
> Only kworker, as you did, is ok from safety pov.
It is not kworker and it is a task work which runs when the process
returns back to userspace.
> Still not recommended in general. Hence rcu_request_urgent_qs_task.
Thanks for the explanation.





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