On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 11:56 AM Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Me, Daniel, Timo are arguing that there are real situations where you > have to be first or need to die. afaik out of all xdp and tc progs there is not a single prog in the fb fleet that has to be first. fb's ddos and firewall don't have to be first. cilium and datadog progs don't have to be first either. The race between cilium and datadog was not the race to the first position, but the conflict due to the same prio. In all cases, I'm aware, prog owners care a lot about ordering, but never about strict first.