Re: [PATCH bpf-next 0/8] New BPF map and BTF security LSM hooks

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On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 12:49:06PM -0400, Paul Moore wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 12:33 AM Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Add new LSM hooks, bpf_map_create_security and bpf_btf_load_security, which
> > are meant to allow highly-granular LSM-based control over the usage of BPF
> > subsytem. Specifically, to control the creation of BPF maps and BTF data
> > objects, which are fundamental building blocks of any modern BPF application.
> >
> > These new hooks are able to override default kernel-side CAP_BPF-based (and
> > sometimes CAP_NET_ADMIN-based) permission checks. It is now possible to
> > implement LSM policies that could granularly enforce more restrictions on
> > a per-BPF map basis (beyond checking coarse CAP_BPF/CAP_NET_ADMIN
> > capabilities), but also, importantly, allow to *bypass kernel-side
> > enforcement* of CAP_BPF/CAP_NET_ADMIN checks for trusted applications and use
> > cases.
> 
> One of the hallmarks of the LSM has always been that it is
> non-authoritative: it cannot unilaterally grant access, it can only
> restrict what would have been otherwise permitted on a traditional
> Linux system.  Put another way, a LSM should not undermine the Linux
> discretionary access controls, e.g. capabilities.
> 
> If there is a problem with the eBPF capability-based access controls,
> that problem needs to be addressed in how the core eBPF code
> implements its capability checks, not by modifying the LSM mechanism
> to bypass these checks.

I think semantics matter here. I wouldn't view this as _bypassing_
capability enforcement: it's just more fine-grained access control.

For example, in many places we have things like:

	if (!some_check(...) && !capable(...))
		return -EPERM;

I would expect this is a similar logic. An operation can succeed if the
access control requirement is met. The mismatch we have through-out the
kernel is that capability checks aren't strictly done by LSM hooks. And
this series conceptually, I think, doesn't violate that -- it's changing
the logic of the capability checks, not the LSM (i.e. there no LSM hooks
yet here).

The reason CAP_BPF was created was because there was nothing else that
would be fine-grained enough at the time.

-- 
Kees Cook



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