Re: BTF tag support in DWARF (notes for today's BPF Office Hours)

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On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 10:05 AM David Faust <david.faust@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On 2/21/23 14:57, Eduard Zingerman wrote:
> > On Tue, 2023-02-21 at 11:38 -0800, David Faust wrote:
> > [...]
> >> Very nice.
> >> Keeping the 0x6000 tag and instead changing the name sounds good to us.
> >>
> >> From the GCC side, support for BTF tags will be new either way but
> >> conserving DWARF tag numbers is a good idea.
> >
> > Great, thank you!
> >
> >>> Both [1] and [2] are in a workable state, but [2] lacks support for
> >>> subroutine types and "void *" for now. If you are onboard with this change
> >>> I'll proceed with finalizing [1] and [2]. (Also, ":v2" suffix might be not
> >>> the best, I'm open to naming suggestions).
> >>
> >> As for the name, I am not sure the ":v2" suffix is a good idea.
> >>
> >> If we need a new name anyway, this could be a good opportunity to use
> >> something more generic. The annotation DIEs, especially with the new
> >> format, could be more widely useful than exclusively for producing BTF.
> >>
> >> For example, some other tool may want to process these same user
> >> annotations which are now recorded in DWARF, but may not involve BPF/BTF
> >> at all. Tying "btf" into the name seems to unnecessarily discourage
> >> those use cases.
> >>
> >> What do you think about something like "debug_type_tag" or
> >> "debug_type_annotation" (and a similar update for the decl tags)?
> >> The translation into BTF records would be the same, but the DWARF info
> >> would stand on its own without being tied to BTF.
> >>
> >> (Naming is a bit tricky since terms like 'tag' are already in use by
> >> DWARF, e.g. "type tag" in the context of DWARF DIEs makes me think of
> >> DW_TAG_xxxx_type...)
> >>
> >> As far as I understand, early proposals for the tags were more generic
> >> but the LLVM reviewers wished for something more specific due to the
> >> relatively limited use of the tags at the time. Now that the tags and
> >> their DWARF format have matured I think a good case can be made to
> >> make these generic. We'd be happy to help push for such change.
> >
> > On the other hand, BTF is a thing we are using this annotation for.
> > Any other tool can reuse DW_TAG_LLVM_annotation, but it will need a
> > way to distinguish it's annotations from BTF annotations. And this can
> > be done by using a different DW_AT_name. So, it seems logical to
> > retain "btf" in the DW_AT_name. What do you think?
>
> OK I can understand keeping it BTF specific.
>
> Other than that, I don't come up with any significantly different idea
> than to use the ":v2" suffix, so let's go with "btf_type_tag:v2"?

I don't like v2 suffix either.
Please come up with something else.



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