Re: [PATCH bpf-next V3] xdp: bpf_xdp_metadata use EOPNOTSUPP for no driver support

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On 21/02/2023 20.03, Martin KaFai Lau wrote:
On 2/21/23 9:13 AM, Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 7:34 AM Jesper Dangaard Brouer

When driver doesn't implement a bpf_xdp_metadata kfunc the default
implementation returns EOPNOTSUPP, which indicate device driver doesn't
implement this kfunc.

Currently many drivers also return EOPNOTSUPP when the hint isn't
available. Instead change drivers to return ENODATA in these cases.
There can be natural cases why a driver doesn't provide any hardware
info for a specific hint, even on a frame to frame basis (e.g. PTP).
Lets keep these cases as separate return codes.

Long term probably still makes sense to export this info via xdp-features? >> Not sure how long we can 100% ensure EOPNOTSUPP vs ENODATA
convention :-)

I am also not sure if it makes the xdp-hints adoption easier for other drivers by enforcing ENODATA or what other return values a driver should or should not return while EOPNOTSUPP is a more common errno to use. May be the driver experts can prove me wrong here.

Which is why I suggested an errno (ENODEV) that drivers will not want to
use by accident.

iiuc, it is for debugging if the bpf prog has been patched with the driver's xdp kfunc. Others have suggested method like dumping the bpf prog insn. It could also trace the driver xdp kfunc and see if it is actually called. Why these won't work?

I regret talking about this as a debugging tool.  IMHO it have steered
the conversation in a wrong direction, sorry.  There are (obviously)
other metods for debugging this.

For me this is more about the API we are giving the BPF-programmer.

There can be natural cases why a driver doesn't provide any hardware
info for a specific hint.  The RX-timestamp is a good practical example,
as often only PTP packets will be timestamped by hardware.

I can write a BPF-prog that create a stats-map for counting
RX-timestamps, expecting to catch any PTP packets with timestamps.  The
problem is my stats-map cannot record the difference of EOPNOTSUPP vs
ENODATA.  Thus, the user of my RX-timestamps stats program can draw the
wrong conclusion, that there are no packets with (PTP) timestamps, when
this was actually a case of driver not implementing this.

I hope this simple stats example make is clearer that the BPF-prog can
make use of this info runtime.  It is simply a question of keeping these
cases as separate return codes. Is that too much to ask for from an API?

--Jesper




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