Hi, On 2/15/2023 3:22 PM, Martin KaFai Lau wrote: > On 2/14/23 8:02 PM, Hou Tao wrote: >>> For local storage, when its owner (sk/task/inode/cgrp) is going away, the >>> memory can be reused immediately. No rcu gp is needed. >> Now it seems it will wait for RCU GP and i think it is still necessary, because >> when the process exits, other processes may still access the local storage >> through pidfd or task_struct of the exited process. > > When its owner (sk/task/cgrp...) is going away, its owner has reached refcnt 0 > and will be kfree immediately next. eg. bpf_sk_storage_free is called just > before the sk is about to be kfree. No bpf prog should have a hold on this sk. > The same should go for the task. A bpf syscall may have already found the task local storage through a pidfd, then the target task exits and the local storage is free immediately, then bpf syscall starts to copy the local storage and there will be a UAF, right ? Did I missing something here ? > > The current rcu gp waiting during bpf_{sk,task,cgrp...}_storage_free is > because the racing with the map destruction bpf_local_storage_map_free(). > >>> >>> The local storage delete case (eg. bpf_sk_storage_delete) is the only one that >>> needs to be freed by tasks_trace gp because another bpf prog (reader) may be >>> under the rcu_read_lock_trace(). I think the idea (BPF_REUSE_AFTER_RCU_GP) on >>> allowing reuse after vanilla rcu gp and free (if needed) after tasks_trace gp >>> can be extended to the local storage delete case. I think we can extend the >>> assumption that "sleepable progs (reader) can use explicit bpf_rcu_read_lock() >>> when they want to avoid uaf" to bpf_{sk,task,inode,cgrp}_storage_get() also. >>> >> It seems bpf_rcu_read_lock() & bpf_rcu_read_unlock() will be used to protect not >> only bpf_task_storage_get(), but also the dereferences of the returned local >> storage ptr, right ? I think qp-trie may also need this. > > I think bpf_rcu_read_lock() is primarily for bpf prog. Yes. I mean the bpf program which uses qp-trie will need bpf_rcu_read_lock(). > > The bpf_{sk,task,...}_storage_get() internal is easier to handle and probably > will need to do its own rcu_read_lock() instead of depending on the bpf prog > doing the bpf_rcu_read_lock() because the bpf prog may decide uaf is fine. > >>> I also need the GFP_ZERO in bpf_mem_alloc, so will work on the GFP_ZERO and >>> the BPF_REUSE_AFTER_RCU_GP idea. Probably will get the GFP_ZERO out first. >> I will continue work on this patchset for GFP_ZERO and reuse flag. Do you mean >> that you want to work together to implement BPF_REUSE_AFTER_RCU_GP ? How do we >> cooperate together to accomplish that ? > Please submit the GFP_ZERO patch first. Kumar and I can use it immediately. > > I have been hacking to make bpf's memalloc safe for the > bpf_{sk,task,cgrp..}_storage_delete() and this safe-on-reuse piece still need > works. The whole thing is getting pretty long, so my current plan is to put > the safe-on-reuse piece aside for now, focus back on the immediate goal and > make the common case deadlock free first. Meaning the > bpf_*_storage_get(BPF_*_STORAGE_GET_F_CREATE) and the bpf_*_storage_free() > will use the bpf_mem_cache_{alloc,free}. The bpf_*_storage_delete() will stay > as-is to go through the call_rcu_tasks_trace() for now since delete is not the > common use case. > > In parallel, if you can post the BPF_REUSE_AFTER_RCU_GP, we can discuss based > on your work. That should speed up the progress. If I finished the immediate > goal for local storage and this piece is still pending, I will ping you > first. Thoughts? I am fine with the proposal, thanks.