Re: [PATCH bpf-next v7 0/3] Add skb + xdp dynptrs

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On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 4:41 AM Tariq Toukan <ttoukan.linux@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm reviving this thread, following the discussion here:
> https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/87fscjakba.fsf@xxxxxxx/
>
> On 21/10/2022 4:19, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 6:15 PM Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> This patchset is the 2nd in the dynptr series. The 1st can be found here [0].
> >>
> >> This patchset adds skb and xdp type dynptrs, which have two main benefits for
> >> packet parsing:
> >>      * allowing operations on sizes that are not statically known at
> >>        compile-time (eg variable-sized accesses).
> >>      * more ergonomic and less brittle iteration through data (eg does not need
> >>        manual if checking for being within bounds of data_end)
> >>
> >> When comparing the differences in runtime for packet parsing without dynptrs
> >> vs. with dynptrs for the more simple cases, there is no noticeable difference.
> >> For the more complex cases where lengths are non-statically known at compile
> >> time, there can be a significant speed-up when using dynptrs (eg a 2x speed up
> >> for cls redirection). Patch 3 contains more details as well as examples of how
> >> to use skb and xdp dynptrs.
> >
> > Before proceeding with this patchset I think we gotta resolve the
> > issues with dynptr-s that Kumar found.
>
> Just to make sure I'm following: The issues that are discussed here?
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAP01T74icBDXOM=ckxYVPK90QLcU4n4VRBjON_+v74dQwJfZvw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx/
>
> What is the current status of dynptrs?
> Any updates since October?
> Do we have any agreement or a plan for this?

Hi Tariq,

The current status of dynptrs is blocked on two things: 1) the fixes
by Kumar in [1] landing upstream and 2) a bigger question of whether
bpf development should proceed with kfuncs or helpers (thread in [2]).
We had a bpf office hour session last Thursday about whether helpers
should be frozen (#2), but did not come to a conclusion in the time
allotted. As a follow-up to the office hour, Toke and David Vernet, I
believe, are working on a document outlining how kfunc stability will
work. After this document is sent out, I think we will probably have
another office hour session or discussion upstream about which
direction to take.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20230101083403.332783-1-memxor@xxxxxxxxx/
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20221208015434.ervz6q5j7bb4jt4a@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/t/#u

>
> Regards,
> Tariq



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