Re: [bpf-next v2 1/2] bpf: add runtime stats, max cost

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On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 1:40 PM Yonghong Song <yhs@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On 12/14/22 8:32 PM, xiangxia.m.yue@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > From: Tonghao Zhang <xiangxia.m.yue@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > Now user can enable sysctl kernel.bpf_stats_enabled to fetch
> > run_time_ns and run_cnt. It's easy to calculate the average value.
> >
> > In some case, the max cost for bpf prog invoked, are more useful:
> > is there a burst sysload or high cpu usage. This patch introduce
> > a update stats helper.
>
> I am not 100% sure about how this single max value will be useful
> in general. A particular max_run_time_ns, if much bigger than average,
> could be an outlier due to preemption/softirq etc.
> What you really need might be a trend over time of the run_time
> to capture the burst. You could do this by taking snapshot of
Hi
If the bpf prog is invoked frequently,  the run_time_ns/run_cnt may
not be increased too much while
there is a maxcost in bpf prog. The max cost value means there is at
least one high cost in bpf prog.
we should take care of the most cost of bpf prog. especially, much
more than run_time_ns/run_cnt.

> run_time_ns/run_cnt periodically and plot the trend of average
> run_time_ns which might correlate with other system activity.
> Maybe I missed some use cases for max_run_time_ns...
>
> >
> > $ bpftool --json --pretty p s
> >     ...
> >     "run_max_cost_ns": 313367
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Tonghao Zhang <xiangxia.m.yue@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: Song Liu <song@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: Yonghong Song <yhs@xxxxxx>
> > Cc: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: KP Singh <kpsingh@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: Hao Luo <haoluo@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: Hou Tao <houtao1@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > ---
> > v2: fix build warning
> > ---
> >   include/linux/filter.h   | 29 ++++++++++++++++++++++-------
> >   include/uapi/linux/bpf.h |  1 +
> >   kernel/bpf/syscall.c     | 10 +++++++++-
> >   kernel/bpf/trampoline.c  | 10 +---------
> >   4 files changed, 33 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
> >
> [...]



-- 
Best regards, Tonghao



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