Re: [PATCH 03/26] fuse-bpf: Update uapi for fuse-bpf

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On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 1:03 AM Paul Lawrence <paullawrence@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:19 AM Miklos Szeredi <miklos@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 27 Sept 2022 at 01:18, Daniel Rosenberg <drosen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/fuse.h b/include/uapi/linux/fuse.h
> > > index d6ccee961891..8c80c146e69b 100644
> > > --- a/include/uapi/linux/fuse.h
> > > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/fuse.h
> > > @@ -572,6 +572,17 @@ struct fuse_entry_out {
> > >         struct fuse_attr attr;
> > >  };
> > >
> > > +#define FUSE_ACTION_KEEP       0
> > > +#define FUSE_ACTION_REMOVE     1
> > > +#define FUSE_ACTION_REPLACE    2
> > > +
> > > +struct fuse_entry_bpf_out {
> > > +       uint64_t        backing_action;
> > > +       uint64_t        backing_fd;
> >
> > This is a security issue.   See this post from Jann:
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAG48ez17uXtjCTa7xpa=JWz3iBbNDQTKO2hvn6PAZtfW3kXgcA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx/
> >
> > The fuse-passthrough series solved this by pre-registering the
> > passthrogh fd with an ioctl. Since this requires an expicit syscall on
> > the server side the attack is thwarted.
> >
> > It would be nice if this mechanism was agreed between these projects.
> >
> > BTW, does fuse-bpf provide a superset of fuse-passthrough?  I mean
> > could fuse-bpf work with a NULL bpf program as a simple passthrough?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Miklos
>
> To deal with the easy part. Yes, fuse-bpf can take a null bpf program, and
> if you install that on files, it should behave exactly like bpf passthrough.
>
> Our intent is that all accesses to the backing files go through the normal
> vfs layer checks, so even once a backing file is installed, it can only be
> accessed if the client already has sufficient rights. However, the same
> statement seems to be true for the fuse passthrough code so I assume
> that is not sufficient. I would be interested in further understanding the
> remaining security issue (or is it defense in depth?) We understand that
> the solution in fuse passthrough was to change the response to a fuse open
> to be an ioctl? This would seem straightforward in fuse-bpf as well if it is
> needed, though of course it would be in the lookup.

Not only in lookup.
In lookup userspace can install an O_PATH fd for backing_path,
but userspace will also need to install readable/writeable fds
as backing_file to be used by open to match the open mode.

When talking about the server-less passthrough mode, some
security model like overlayfs mounter creds model will need to be
employed, although in the private case of one-to-one passthrough
I guess using the caller creds should be good enough, as long as
the security model is spelled out and implementation is audited.

Thanks,
Amir.



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