On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 6:45 AM Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@xxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 01:26:05PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 11:32:17PM -0700, Martin KaFai Lau wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 09:38:01PM +0200, KP Singh wrote: > > > [ ... ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > @@ -131,7 +149,7 @@ bool bpf_selem_unlink_storage_nolock(struct bpf_local_storage *local_storage, > > > > > > > > > > SDATA(selem)) > > > > > > > > > > RCU_INIT_POINTER(local_storage->cache[smap->cache_idx], NULL); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - kfree_rcu(selem, rcu); > > > > > > > > > > + call_rcu_tasks_trace(&selem->rcu, bpf_selem_free_rcu); > > > > > > > > > Although the common use case is usually storage_get() much more often > > > > > > > > > than storage_delete(), do you aware any performance impact for > > > > > > > > > the bpf prog that does a lot of storage_delete()? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not really measured the impact on deletes, My understanding is > > > > > > > > that it should > > > > > > > > not impact the BPF program, but yes, if there are some critical > > > > > > > > sections that are prolonged > > > > > > > > due to a sleepable program "sleeping" too long, then it would pile up > > > > > > > > the callbacks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But this is not something new, as we have a similar thing in BPF > > > > > > > > trampolines. If this really > > > > > > > > becomes an issue, we could add a flag BPF_F_SLEEPABLE_STORAGE and only maps > > > > > > > > with this flag would be allowed in sleepable progs. > > > > > > > Agree that is similar to trampoline updates but not sure it is comparable > > > > > > > in terms of the frequency of elems being deleted here. e.g. many > > > > > > > short lived tcp connections created by external traffic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adding a BPF_F_SLEEPABLE_STORAGE later won't work. It will break > > > > > > > existing sleepable bpf prog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know enough on call_rcu_tasks_trace() here, so the > > > > > > > earlier question on perf/callback-pile-up implications in order to > > > > > > > decide if extra logic or knob is needed here or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will defer to the others, maybe Alexei and Paul, > > > > > > > > > > > we could also just > > > > > > add the flag to not affect existing performance characteristics? > > > > > I would see if it is really necessary first. Other sleepable > > > > > supported maps do not need a flag. Adding one here for local > > > > > storage will be confusing especially if it turns out to be > > > > > unnecessary. > > > > > > > > > > Could you run some tests first which can guide the decision? > > > > > > > > I think the performance impact would happen only in the worst case which > > > > needs some work to simulate. What do you think about: > > > > > > > > A bprm_committed_creds program that processes a large argv > > > > and also gets a storage on the inode. > > > > > > > > A file_open program that tries to delete the local storage on the inode. > > > > > > > > Trigger this code in parallel. i.e. lots of programs that execute with a very > > > > large argv and then in parallel the executable being opened to trigger the > > > > delete. > > > > > > > > Do you have any other ideas? Is there something we could re-use from > > > > the selftests? > > > > > > There is a bench framework in tools/testing/selftests/bpf/benchs/ > > > that has a parallel thread setup which could be useful. > > > > > > Don't know how to simulate the "sleeping" too long which > > > then pile-up callbacks. This is not bpf specific. > > > Paul, I wonder if you have similar test to trigger this to > > > compare between call_rcu_tasks_trace() and call_rcu()? > > > > It is definitely the case that call_rcu() is way more scalable than > > is call_rcu_tasks_trace(). Something about call_rcu_tasks_trace() > > acquiring a global lock. ;-) > > > > So actually testing it makes a lot of sense. > > > > I do have an rcuscale module, but it is set up more for synchronous grace > > periods such as synchronize_rcu() and synchronize_rcu_tasks_trace(). It > > has the beginnings of support for call_rcu() and call_rcu_tasks_trace(), > > but I would not yet trust them. > > > > But I also have a test for global locking: > > > > $ tools/testing/selftests/rcutorture/bin/kvm.sh --torture refscale --allcpus --duration 5 --configs "NOPREEMPT" --kconfig "CONFIG_NR_CPUS=16" --bootargs "refscale.scale_type=lock refscale.loops=10000 refscale.holdoff=20 torture.disable_onoff_at_boot" --trust-make > > > > This gives a median lock overhead of 960ns. Running a single CPU rather > > than 16 of them: > > > > $ tools/testing/selftests/rcutorture/bin/kvm.sh --torture refscale --allcpus --duration 5 --configs "NOPREEMPT" --kconfig "CONFIG_NR_CPUS=16" --bootargs "refscale.scale_type=lock refscale.loops=10000 refscale.holdoff=20 torture.disable_onoff_at_boot" --trust-make > > > > This gives a median lock overhead of 4.1ns, which is way faster. > > And the greater the number of CPUs, the greater the lock overhead. > Thanks for the explanation and numbers! > > I think the global lock will be an issue for the current non-sleepable > netdev bpf-prog which could be triggered by external traffic, so a flag > is needed here to provide a fast path. I suspect other non-prealloc map > may need it in the future, so probably > s/BPF_F_SLEEPABLE_STORAGE/BPF_F_SLEEPABLE/ instead. I was re-working the patches and had a couple of questions. There are two data structures that get freed under RCU here: struct bpf_local_storage struct bpf_local_storage_selem We can choose to free the bpf_local_storage_selem under call_rcu_tasks_trace based on whether the map it belongs to is sleepable with something like: if (selem->sdata.smap->map.map_flags & BPF_F_SLEEPABLE_STORAGE) call_rcu_tasks_trace(&selem->rcu, bpf_selem_free_rcu); else kfree_rcu(selem, rcu); Questions: * Can we free bpf_local_storage under kfree_rcu by ensuring it's always accessed in a classical RCU critical section? Or maybe I am missing something and this also needs to be freed under trace RCU if any of the selems are from a sleepable map. * There is an issue with nested raw spinlocks, e.g. in bpf_inode_storage.c:bpf_inode_storage_free hlist_for_each_entry_safe(selem, n, &local_storage->list, snode) { /* Always unlink from map before unlinking from * local_storage. */ bpf_selem_unlink_map(selem); free_inode_storage = bpf_selem_unlink_storage_nolock( local_storage, selem, false); } raw_spin_unlock_bh(&local_storage->lock); in bpf_selem_unlink_storage_nolock (if we add the above logic with the flag in place of kfree_rcu) call_rcu_tasks_trace grabs a spinlock and these cannot be nested in a raw spin lock. I am moving the freeing code out of the spinlock, saving the selems on a local list and then doing the free RCU (trace or normal) callbacks at the end. WDYT? - KP > > [ ... ] > > > > [ 143.376587] ============================= > > > [ 143.377068] WARNING: suspicious RCU usage > > > [ 143.377541] 5.14.0-rc5-01271-g68e5bda2b18e #4966 Tainted: G O > > > [ 143.378378] ----------------------------- > > > [ 143.378857] kernel/bpf/bpf_local_storage.c:114 suspicious rcu_dereference_check() usage! > > > [ 143.379914] > > > [ 143.379914] other info that might help us debug this: > > > [ 143.379914] > > > [ 143.380838] > > > [ 143.380838] rcu_scheduler_active = 2, debug_locks = 1 > > > [ 143.381602] 4 locks held by mv/1781: > > > [ 143.382025] #0: ffff888121e7c438 (sb_writers#6){.+.+}-{0:0}, at: do_renameat2+0x2f5/0xa80 > > > [ 143.383009] #1: ffff88812ce68760 (&type->i_mutex_dir_key#5/1){+.+.}-{3:3}, at: lock_rename+0x1f4/0x250 > > > [ 143.384144] #2: ffffffff843fbc60 (rcu_read_lock_trace){....}-{0:0}, at: __bpf_prog_enter_sleepable+0x45/0x160 > > > [ 143.385326] #3: ffff88811d8348b8 (&storage->lock){..-.}-{2:2}, at: __bpf_selem_unlink_storage+0x7d/0x170 > > > [ 143.386459] > > > [ 143.386459] stack backtrace: > > > [ 143.386983] CPU: 2 PID: 1781 Comm: mv Tainted: G O 5.14.0-rc5-01271-g68e5bda2b18e #4966 > > > [ 143.388071] Hardware name: QEMU Standard PC (i440FX + PIIX, 1996), BIOS 1.9.3-1.el7.centos 04/01/2014 > > > [ 143.389146] Call Trace: > > > [ 143.389446] dump_stack_lvl+0x5b/0x82 > > > [ 143.389901] dump_stack+0x10/0x12 > > > [ 143.390302] lockdep_rcu_suspicious+0x15c/0x167 > > > [ 143.390854] bpf_selem_unlink_storage_nolock+0x2e1/0x6d0 > > > [ 143.391501] __bpf_selem_unlink_storage+0xb7/0x170 > > > [ 143.392085] bpf_selem_unlink+0x1b/0x30 > > > [ 143.392554] bpf_inode_storage_delete+0x57/0xa0 > > > [ 143.393112] bpf_prog_31e277fe2c132665_inode_rename+0x9c/0x268 > > > [ 143.393814] bpf_trampoline_6442476301_0+0x4e/0x1000 > > > [ 143.394413] bpf_lsm_inode_rename+0x5/0x10 > > > > I am not sure what line 114 is (it is a blank line in bpf-next), but > > you might be missing a rcu_read_lock_trace_held() in the second argument > > of rcu_dereference_check(). > Right, this path is only under rcu_read_lock_trace().