Re: [PATCH bpf-next 07/10] bpf: Add helpers to query conntrack info

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On 10/20/21 2:54 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>> Sure, but I'm not sure I understand the use case.
>>
>> Insertion at XDP layer turns off netfilters NAT capability, so its
>> incompatible with the classic forwarding path.
>>
>> If thats fine, why do you need to insert into the conntrack table to
>> begin with?  The entire infrastructure its designed for is disabled...
> One of the major selling points of XDP is that you can reuse the
> existing kernel infrastructure instead of having to roll your own. So
> sure, one could implement their own conntrack using BPF maps (as indeed,
> e.g., Cilium has done), but why do that when you can take advantage of
> the existing one in the kernel? Same reason we have the bpf_fib_lookup()
> helper...
> 

Exactly, and a key point is that it allows consistency between XDP fast
path and full stack slow path. e.g., the BPF program is removed or
defers a flow to full stack for some reason.



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