Jakub Kicinski <kuba@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 13:53:35 +0200 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: >> I'm OK with a bpf_header_pointer()-type helper - I quite like the >> in-kernel version of this for SKBs, so replicating it as a BPF helper >> would be great. But I'm a little worried about taking a performance hit. >> >> I.e., if you do: >> >> ptr = bpf_header_pointer(pkt, offset, len, stack_ptr) >> *ptr = xxx; >> >> then, if the helper ended up copying the data into the stack pointer, >> you didn't actually change anything in the packet, so you need to do a >> writeback. >> >> Jakub suggested up-thread that this should be done with some kind of >> flush() helper. But you don't know whether the header_pointer()-helper >> copied the data, so you always need to call the flush() helper, which >> will incur overhead. If the verifier can in-line the helpers that will >> lower it, but will it be enough to make it negligible? > > Depends on the assumptions the program otherwise makes, right? > > For reading I'd expect a *layout-independent* TC program would > replace approximately: > > ptr = <some_ptr>; > if (ptr + CONST >= md->ptr_end) > if (bpf_pull_data(md, off + CONST)) > return DROP; > ptr = <some_ptr>; > if (ptr + CONST >= md->ptr_end) > return DROP; /* da hell? */ > } > > With this (pre-inlining): > > ptr = bpf_header_pointer(md, offset, len, stack); > if (!ptr) > return DROP; > > Post-inlining (assuming static validation of args to prevent wraps): > > if (md->ptr + args->off + args->len < md->ptr_end) > ptr = md->ptr + args->off; > else > ptr = __bpf_header_pointer(md, offset, len, stack); > if (!ptr) > return DROP; > > But that's based on guesswork so perhaps I'm off base. Yeah, that's more or less what I was thinking... > Regarding the flush() I was expecting that most progs will not modify > the packet (or at least won't modify most headers they load) so no > point paying the price of tracking changes auto-magically. ... but I guess my mental model assumed that packet writes would be just as frequent as reads, in which case it would be a win if you could amend your example like: > In fact I don't think there is anything infra can do better for > flushing than the prog itself: > > bool mod = false; > > ptr = bpf_header_pointer(...); > ... > if (some_cond(...)) { > change_packet(...); > mod = true; > } > ... > if (mod) to have an additional check like: if (mod && ptr == stack) (or something to that effect). No? -Toke > bpf_header_pointer_flush(); > > > is simple enough.. to me.