Re: [PATCH v2] lockdown,selinux: avoid bogus SELinux lockdown permission checks

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On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 8:08 PM Alexei Starovoitov
<alexei.starovoitov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 4:34 PM Paul Moore <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Again, the problem is not limited to BPF at all. kprobes is doing register-
> > > time hooks which are equivalent to the one of BPF. Anything in run-time
> > > trying to prevent probe_read_kernel by kprobes or BPF is broken by design.
> >
> > Not being an expert on kprobes I can't really comment on that, but
> > right now I'm focused on trying to make things work for the BPF
> > helpers.  I suspect that if we can get the SELinux lockdown
> > implementation working properly for BPF the solution for kprobes won't
> > be far off.
>
> Paul,

Hi Alexei,

> Both kprobe and bpf can call probe_read_kernel==copy_from_kernel_nofault
> from all contexts.
> Including NMI.

Thanks, that is helpful.  In hindsight it should have been obvious
that kprobe/BPF would offer to insert code into the NMI handlers, but
I don't recall it earlier in the discussion, it's possible I simply
missed the mention.

> Most of audit_log_* is not acceptable.
> Just removing a wakeup is not solving anything.

That's not really fair now is it?  Removing the wakeups in
audit_log_start() and audit_log_end() does solve some problems,
although not all of them (i.e. the NMI problem being the 800lb
gorilla).  Because of the NMI case we're not going to solve the
LSM/audit case anytime soon so it looks like we are going to have to
fall back to the patch Daniel proposed.

Acked-by: Paul Moore <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

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