Hi all,
I agree that herd7 computation of control dependencies is problematic here.
Thanks for reporting the problem. Paul kindly takes the responsibility for the problem, but frankly do not remember having followed his recommendations here.
I am quite busy today and canot really work on the issue. However my intuition is that control dependencies follow from chains of control dependencies in if (say “direct” control dependencies, roughly from "if" condition to if statement) and data dependencies, ending in control.
—Luc
> On 3 Mar 2021, at 00:50, Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 04:14:46PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 07:46:27PM +0100, Björn Töpel wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Firstly; The long Cc-list is to reach the LKMM-folks.
>>>
>>> Some background; the XDP sockets use a ring-buffer to communicate
>>> between the kernel and userland. It's a
>>> single-consumer/single-producer ring, and described in
>>> net/xdp/xsk_queue.h.
>>>
>>> --8<---
>>> /* The structure of the shared state of the rings are the same as the
>>> * ring buffer in kernel/events/ring_buffer.c. For the Rx and completion
>>> * ring, the kernel is the producer and user space is the consumer. For
>>> * the Tx and fill rings, the kernel is the consumer and user space is
>>> * the producer.
>>> *
>>> * producer consumer
>>> *
>>> * if (LOAD ->consumer) { LOAD ->producer
>>> * (A) smp_rmb() (C)
>>> * STORE $data LOAD $data
>>> * smp_wmb() (B) smp_mb() (D)
>>> * STORE ->producer STORE ->consumer
>>> * }
>>> *
>>> * (A) pairs with (D), and (B) pairs with (C).
>>> ...
>>> -->8---
>>>
>>> I'd like to replace the smp_{r,w,}mb() barriers with acquire-release
>>> semantics [1], without breaking existing userspace applications.
>>>
>>> So, I figured I'd use herd7 and the LKMM model to build a litmus test
>>> for the barrier version, then for the acquire-release version, and
>>> finally permutations of both.
>>>
>>> The idea is to use a one element ring, with a state machine outlined
>>> in the litmus test.
>>>
>>> The basic test for the existing smp_{r,w,}mb() barriers looks like:
>>>
>>> $ cat spsc-rb+1p1c.litmus
>>> C spsc-rb+1p1c
>>>
>>> // Stupid one entry ring:
>>> // prod cons allowed action prod cons
>>> // 0 0 => prod => 1 0
>>> // 0 1 => cons => 0 0
>>> // 1 0 => cons => 1 1
>>> // 1 1 => prod => 0 1
>>>
>>> { prod = 1; }
>>>
>>> // Here, we start at prod==1,cons==0, data==0, i.e. producer has
>>> // written data=0, so from here only the consumer can start, and should
>>> // consume data==0. Afterwards, producer can continue and write 1 to
>>> // data. Can we enter state prod==0, cons==1, but consumer observerd
>>> // the write of 1?
>>>
>>> P0(int *prod, int *cons, int *data)
>>> {
>>> int p;
>>> int c;
>>> int cond = 0;
>>>
>>> p = READ_ONCE(*prod);
>>> c = READ_ONCE(*cons);
>>> if (p == 0)
>>> if (c == 0)
>>> cond = 1;
>>> if (p == 1)
>>> if (c == 1)
>>> cond = 1;
>>>
>>> if (cond) {
>>> smp_mb();
>>> WRITE_ONCE(*data, 1);
>>> smp_wmb();
>>> WRITE_ONCE(*prod, p ^ 1);
>>> }
>>> }
>>>
>>> P1(int *prod, int *cons, int *data)
>>> {
>>> int p;
>>> int c;
>>> int d = -1;
>>> int cond = 0;
>>>
>>> p = READ_ONCE(*prod);
>>> c = READ_ONCE(*cons);
>>> if (p == 1)
>>> if (c == 0)
>>> cond = 1;
>>> if (p == 0)
>>> if (c == 1)
>>> cond = 1;
>>>
>>> if (cond == 1) {
>>> smp_rmb();
>>> d = READ_ONCE(*data);
>>> smp_mb();
>>> WRITE_ONCE(*cons, c ^ 1);
>>> }
>>> }
>>>
>>> exists( 1:d=1 /\ prod=0 /\ cons=1 );
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> The weird state changing if-statements is because that I didn't get
>>> '&&' and '||' to work with herd.
>>>
>>> When this is run:
>>>
>>> $ herd7 -conf linux-kernel.cfg litmus-tests/spsc-rb+1p1c.litmus
>>> Test spsc-rb+1p1c Allowed
>>> States 2
>>> 1:d=0; cons=1; prod=0;
>>> 1:d=0; cons=1; prod=1;
>>> No
>>> Witnesses
>>> Positive: 0 Negative: 2
>>> Condition exists (1:d=1 /\ prod=0 /\ cons=1)
>>> Observation spsc-rb+1p1c Never 0 2
>>> Time spsc-rb+1p1c 0.04
>>> Hash=b399756d6a1301ca5bda042f32130791
>>>
>>> Now to my question; In P0 there's an smp_mb(). Without that, the d==1
>>> can be observed from P1 (consumer):
>>>
>>> $ herd7 -conf linux-kernel.cfg litmus-tests/spsc-rb+1p1c.litmus
>>> Test spsc-rb+1p1c Allowed
>>> States 3
>>> 1:d=0; cons=1; prod=0;
>>> 1:d=0; cons=1; prod=1;
>>> 1:d=1; cons=1; prod=0;
>>> Ok
>>> Witnesses
>>> Positive: 1 Negative: 2
>>> Condition exists (1:d=1 /\ prod=0 /\ cons=1)
>>> Observation spsc-rb+1p1c Sometimes 1 2
>>> Time spsc-rb+1p1c 0.04
>>> Hash=0047fc21fa77da9a9aee15e35ec367ef
>>
>> This result is wrong, apparently because of a bug in herd7. There
>> should be control dependencies from each of the two loads in P0 to each
>> of the two stores, but herd7 doesn't detect them.
>>
>> Maybe Luc can find some time to check whether this really is a bug and
>> if it is, fix it.
>
> I agree that herd7's control dependency tracking could be improved.
>
> But sadly, it is currently doing exactly what I asked Luc to make it do,
> which is to confine the control dependency to its "if" statement. But as
> usual I wasn't thinking globally enough. And I am not exactly sure what
> to ask for. Here a store to a local was control-dependency ordered after
> a read, and so that should propagate to a read from that local variable.
> Maybe treat local variables as if they were registers, so that from
> herd7's viewpoint the READ_ONCE()s are able to head control-dependency
> chains in multiple "if" statements?
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanx, Paul
>
>>> In commit c7f2e3cd6c1f ("perf: Optimize ring-buffer write by depending
>>> on control dependencies") removes the corresponding smp_mb(), and also
>>> the circular buffer in circular-buffers.txt (pre commit 6c43c091bdc5
>>> ("documentation: Update circular buffer for
>>> load-acquire/store-release")) is missing the smp_mb() at the
>>> producer-side.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to wrap my head around why it's OK to remove the smp_mb()
>>> in the cases above? I'm worried that the current XDP socket ring
>>> implementation (which is missing smp_mb()) might be broken.
>>
>> Because of the control dependencies, the smp_mb isn't needed. The
>> dependencies will order both of the stores after both of the loads.
>>
>> Alan Stern
