Re: [PATCH bpf] x86/bpf: handle bpf-program-triggered exceptions properly

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On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 01:35:16AM +0100, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 1:11 AM Alexei Starovoitov
> <alexei.starovoitov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 03:51:13PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > > Okay, so I guess you're trying to inline probe_read_kernel().  But
> > > that means you have to inline a valid implementation.  In particular,
> > > you need to check that you're accessing *kernel* memory.  Just like
> >
> > That check is on the verifier side. It only does it for kernel
> > pointers with known types.
> > In a sequnce a->b->c the verifier guarantees that 'a' is valid
> > kernel pointer and it's also !null. Then it guarantees that offsetof(b)
> > points to valid kernel field which is also a pointer.
> > What it doesn't check that b != null, so
> > that users don't have to write silly code with 'if (p)' after every
> > dereference.
> 
> How is that supposed to work? If I e.g. have a pointer to a
> task_struct, and I do something like:
> 
> task->mm->mmap->vm_file->f_inode
> 
> and another thread concurrently mutates the VMA tree and frees the VMA
> that we're traversing here, how can BPF guarantee that
> task->mm->mmap->vm_file is a valid pointer and not whatever garbage we
> read from freed memory?

Please read upthread. Every -> is replaced with probe_kernel_read.
That's what was kprobes were doing for years. That's what bpf was
doing for years.



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