Re: [RFC PATCH 0/7] Support for virtio-net hash reporting

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On 2021/1/13 下午10:33, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 11:11 PM Jason Wang <jasowang@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 2021/1/13 上午7:47, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 3:29 PM Yuri Benditovich
<yuri.benditovich@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 9:49 PM Yuri Benditovich
<yuri.benditovich@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 9:41 PM Yuri Benditovich
<yuri.benditovich@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Existing TUN module is able to use provided "steering eBPF" to
calculate per-packet hash and derive the destination queue to
place the packet to. The eBPF uses mapped configuration data
containing a key for hash calculation and indirection table
with array of queues' indices.

This series of patches adds support for virtio-net hash reporting
feature as defined in virtio specification. It extends the TUN module
and the "steering eBPF" as follows:

Extended steering eBPF calculates the hash value and hash type, keeps
hash value in the skb->hash and returns index of destination virtqueue
and the type of the hash. TUN module keeps returned hash type in
(currently unused) field of the skb.
skb->__unused renamed to 'hash_report_type'.

When TUN module is called later to allocate and fill the virtio-net
header and push it to destination virtqueue it populates the hash
and the hash type into virtio-net header.

VHOST driver is made aware of respective virtio-net feature that
extends the virtio-net header to report the hash value and hash report
type.
Comment from Willem de Bruijn:

Skbuff fields are in short supply. I don't think we need to add one
just for this narrow path entirely internal to the tun device.

We understand that and try to minimize the impact by using an already
existing unused field of skb.
Not anymore. It was repurposed as a flags field very recently.

This use case is also very narrow in scope. And a very short path from
data producer to consumer. So I don't think it needs to claim scarce
bits in the skb.

tun_ebpf_select_queue stores the field, tun_put_user reads it and
converts it to the virtio_net_hdr in the descriptor.

tun_ebpf_select_queue is called from .ndo_select_queue.  Storing the
field in skb->cb is fragile, as in theory some code could overwrite
that between field between ndo_select_queue and
ndo_start_xmit/tun_net_xmit, from which point it is fully under tun
control again. But in practice, I don't believe anything does.

Alternatively an existing skb field that is used only on disjoint
datapaths, such as ingress-only, could be viable.

A question here. We had metadata support in XDP for cooperation between
eBPF programs. Do we have something similar in the skb?

E.g in the RSS, if we want to pass some metadata information between
eBPF program and the logic that generates the vnet header (either hard
logic in the kernel or another eBPF program). Is there any way that can
avoid the possible conflicts of qdiscs?
Not that I am aware of. The closest thing is cb[].

It'll have to aliase a field like that, that is known unused for the given path.


Right, we need to make sure cb is not used by other ones. I'm not sure how hard to achieve that consider Qemu installs the eBPF program but it doesn't deal with networking configurations.



One other approach that has been used within linear call stacks is out
of band. Like percpu variables softnet_data.xmit.more and
mirred_rec_level. But that is perhaps a bit overwrought for this use
case.


Yes, and if we go that way then eBPF turns out to be a burden since we need to invent helpers to access those auxiliary data structure. It would be better then to hard-coded the RSS in the kernel.



Instead, you could just run the flow_dissector in tun_put_user if the
feature is negotiated. Indeed, the flow dissector seems more apt to me
than BPF here. Note that the flow dissector internally can be
overridden by a BPF program if the admin so chooses.

When this set of patches is related to hash delivery in the virtio-net
packet in general,
it was prepared in context of RSS feature implementation as defined in
virtio spec [1]
In case of RSS it is not enough to run the flow_dissector in tun_put_user:
in tun_ebpf_select_queue the TUN calls eBPF to calculate the hash,
hash type and queue index
according to the (mapped) parameters (key, hash types, indirection
table) received from the guest.
TUNSETSTEERINGEBPF was added to support more diverse queue selection
than the default in case of multiqueue tun. Not sure what the exact
use cases are.

But RSS is exactly the purpose of the flow dissector. It is used for
that purpose in the software variant RPS. The flow dissector
implements a superset of the RSS spec, and certainly computes a
four-tuple for TCP/IPv6. In the case of RPS, it is skipped if the NIC
has already computed a 4-tuple hash.

What it does not give is a type indication, such as
VIRTIO_NET_HASH_TYPE_TCPv6. I don't understand how this would be used.
In datapaths where the NIC has already computed the four-tuple hash
and stored it in skb->hash --the common case for servers--, That type
field is the only reason to have to compute again.

The problem is there's no guarantee that the packet comes from the NIC,
it could be a simple VM2VM or host2VM packet.

And even if the packet is coming from the NIC that calculates the hash
there's no guarantee that it's the has that guest want (guest may use
different RSS keys).
Ah yes, of course.

I would still revisit the need to store a detailed hash_type along with
the hash, as as far I can tell that conveys no actionable information
to the guest.


Yes, need to figure out its usage. According to [1], it only mention that storing has type is a charge of driver. Maybe Yuri can answer this.

Thanks

[1] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/network/indicating-rss-receive-data







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