On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 10:53 PM Song Liu <songliubraving@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi Jeff and Amir, > > Thanks for your inputs! > > > On Nov 19, 2024, at 7:30 AM, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 4:25 PM Amir Goldstein <amir73il@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:21 PM Jeff Layton <jlayton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > > [...] > > >>> Longer term, I think it may be beneficial to come up with a way to attach > >>>>> private info to the inode in a way that doesn't cost us one pointer per > >>>>> funcionality that may possibly attach info to the inode. We already have > >>>>> i_crypt_info, i_verity_info, i_flctx, i_security, etc. It's always a tough > >>>>> call where the space overhead for everybody is worth the runtime & > >>>>> complexity overhead for users using the functionality... > >>>> > >>>> It does seem to be the right long term solution, and I am willing to > >>>> work on it. However, I would really appreciate some positive feedback > >>>> on the idea, so that I have better confidence my weeks of work has a > >>>> better chance to worth it. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Song > >>>> > >>>> [1] https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/main/src/core/bpf/restrict_fs/restrict-fs.bpf.c > >>> > >>> fsnotify is somewhat similar to file locking in that few inodes on the > >>> machine actually utilize these fields. > >>> > >>> For file locking, we allocate and populate the inode->i_flctx field on > >>> an as-needed basis. The kernel then hangs on to that struct until the > >>> inode is freed. > > If we have some universal on-demand per-inode memory allocator, > I guess we can move i_flctx to it? > > >>> We could do something similar here. We have this now: > >>> > >>> #ifdef CONFIG_FSNOTIFY > >>> __u32 i_fsnotify_mask; /* all events this inode cares about */ > >>> /* 32-bit hole reserved for expanding i_fsnotify_mask */ > >>> struct fsnotify_mark_connector __rcu *i_fsnotify_marks; > >>> #endif > > And maybe some fsnotify fields too? > > With a couple users, I think it justifies to have some universal > on-demond allocator. > > >>> What if you were to turn these fields into a pointer to a new struct: > >>> > >>> struct fsnotify_inode_context { > >>> struct fsnotify_mark_connector __rcu *i_fsnotify_marks; > >>> struct bpf_local_storage __rcu *i_bpf_storage; > >>> __u32 i_fsnotify_mask; /* all events this inode cares about */ > >>> }; > >>> > >> > >> The extra indirection is going to hurt for i_fsnotify_mask > >> it is being accessed frequently in fsnotify hooks, so I wouldn't move it > >> into a container, but it could be moved to the hole after i_state. > > >>> Then whenever you have to populate any of these fields, you just > >>> allocate one of these structs and set the inode up to point to it. > >>> They're tiny too, so don't bother freeing it until the inode is > >>> deallocated. > >>> > >>> It'd mean rejiggering a fair bit of fsnotify code, but it would give > >>> the fsnotify code an easier way to expand per-inode info in the future. > >>> It would also slightly shrink struct inode too. > > I am hoping to make i_bpf_storage available to tracing programs. > Therefore, I would rather not limit it to fsnotify context. We can > still use the universal on-demand allocator. > > >> > >> This was already done for s_fsnotify_marks, so you can follow the recipe > >> of 07a3b8d0bf72 ("fsnotify: lazy attach fsnotify_sb_info state to sb") > >> and create an fsnotify_inode_info container. > >> > > > > On second thought, fsnotify_sb_info container is allocated and attached > > in the context of userspace adding a mark. > > > > If you will need allocate and attach fsnotify_inode_info in the content of > > fast path fanotify hook in order to add the inode to the map, I don't > > think that is going to fly?? > > Do you mean we may not be able to allocate memory in the fast path > hook? AFAICT, the fast path is still in the process context, so I > think this is not a problem? Right. that should be ok. Thanks, Amir.