Re: [PATCH bpf-next v9 04/10] bpf: Check potential private stack recursion for progs with async callback

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On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 1:26 PM Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > I see. I think it works, but feels complicated.
> > It feels it should be possible to do without extra flags. Like
> > check_max_stack_depth_subprog() will know whether it was called
> > to verify async_cb or not.
> > So it's just a matter of adding single 'if' to it:
> > if (subprog[idx].use_priv_stack && checking_async_cb)
> >     /* reset to false due to potential recursion */
> >     subprog[idx].use_priv_stack = false;
> >
> > check_max_stack_depth() starts with i==0,
> > so reachable and eligible subprogs will be marked with use_priv_stack.
> > Then check_max_stack_depth_subprog() will be called again
> > to verify async. If it sees the mark it's a bad case.
> > what am I missing?
>
> First I think we still want to mark some subprogs in async tree
> to use private stack, right? If this is the case, then let us see
> the following examle:
>
> main_prog:
>     sub1: use_priv_stack = true
>     sub2" use_priv_stack = true
>
> async: /* calling sub1 twice */
>     sub1
>       <=== we do
>              if (subprog[idx].use_priv_stack && checking_async_cb)
>                  subprog[idx].use_priv_stack = false;
>     sub1
>       <=== here we have subprog[idx].use_priv_stack = false;
>            we could mark use_priv_stack = true again here
>            since logic didn't keep track of sub1 has been
>            visited before.

This case needs a sticky state to solve.
Instead of bool use_priv_stack it can be tri-state:
no_priv_stack
priv_stack_unknown <- start state
priv_stack_maybe

main_prog pass will set it to priv_stack_maybe
while async pass will clear it to no_priv_stack
and it cannot be bumped up.

> To solve the above issue, we need one visited bit in bpf_subprog_info.
> After finishing async tree, if for any subprog,
>    visited_bit && subprog[idx].use_priv_stack
> is true, we can mark subprog[idx].use_priv_stack = false
>
> So one visited bit is enough.
>
> More complicated case is two asyncs. For example:
>
> main_prog:
>    sub1
>    sub2
>
> async1:
>    sub3
>
> async2:
>    sub3
>
> If async1/sub3 and async2/sub3 can be nested, then we will
> need two visited bits as I have above.
> If async1/sub3 and async2/sub3 cannot be nested, then one
> visited bit should be enough, since we can traverse
> async1/async2 with 'visited' marking and then compare against
> main prog.
>
> So the question would be:
>    1. Is it possible that two async call backs may nest with
>       each other? I actually do not know the answer.

I think we have to assume that they can. Doing otherwise
would subject us to implementation details.
I think above tri-state approach works for two callbacks case too:
async1 will bump sub3 to priv_stack_maybe
while async2 will clear it to sticky no_priv_stack.

Ideally we reuse the same enum for this algorithm and for earlier
patches.

>    2. Do we want to allow subprogs in async tree to use private
>       stacks?

yes. when sched-ext requests priv stack it would want it everywhere.
I think the request_priv_stack should be treated as
PRIV_STACK_ADAPTIVE. Meaning that subprogs with stack_depth < 64
don't need to use it.
In other words struct_ops prog with request_priv_stack == true
tells the verifier: add run-time recursion check at main prog entry,
otherwise treat it like fentry and pick priv stack vs normal
as the best for performance.

Then for both fentry and struct_ops w/request_priv_stack
the async callbacks will be considered for priv stack too and
will be cleared to normals stack when potential recursion via async
is detected.
I don't think it's an error for either prog type.
Overall we shouldn't treat struct_ops too special.
fentry progs with large stack are automatically candidates for priv stack.
struct_ops w/request_priv_stack are in the same category.





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