Re: [PATCH v3 09/19] unwind: Introduce sframe user space unwinding

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On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 12:29 PM Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 01, 2024 at 11:34:48AM -0700, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> > 00200000-170ad000 r--p 00000000 07:01 5
> > 172ac000-498e7000 r-xp 16eac000 07:01 5
> > 49ae7000-49b8b000 r--p 494e7000 07:01 5
> > 49d8b000-4a228000 rw-p 4958b000 07:01 5
> > 4a228000-4c677000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
> > 4c800000-4ca00000 r-xp 49c00000 07:01 5
> > 4ca00000-4f600000 r-xp 49e00000 07:01 5
> > 4f600000-5b270000 r-xp 4ca00000 07:01 5
> >
> > Sorry, I'm probably dense and missing something. But from the example
> > process above, isn't this check violated already? Or it's two
> > different things? Not sure, honestly.
>
> It's hard to tell exactly what's going on, did you strip the file names?

Yes, I did, of course. But as I said, they all belong to the same main
binary of the process.

>
> The sframe limitation is per file, not per address space.  I assume
> these are one file:
>
> > 172ac000-498e7000 r-xp 16eac000 07:01 5
>
> and these are another:
>
> > 4c800000-4ca00000 r-xp 49c00000 07:01 5
> > 4ca00000-4f600000 r-xp 49e00000 07:01 5
> > 4f600000-5b270000 r-xp 4ca00000 07:01 5
>
> Multiple mappings for a single file is fine, as long as they're
> contiguous.

No all of what I posted above belongs to the same file (except
"4a228000-4c677000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0" which doesn't have
associated file, but I suspect it originally was part of this file, we
do some tricks with re-mmap()'ing stuff due to huge pages usage).

>
> > > Actually I just double checked and even the kernel's ELF loader assumes
> > > that each executable has only a single text start+end address pair.
> >
> > See above, very confused by such assumptions, but I'm hoping we are
> > talking about two different things here.
>
> The "contiguous text" thing seems enforced by the kernel for
> executables.  However it doesn't manage shared libraries, those are
> mapped by the loader, e.g. /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2.
>
> At a quick glance I can't tell if /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 enforces
> that.
>
> > > There's no point in adding complexity to support some hypothetical.  I
> > > can remove the printk though.
> >
> > We are talking about fundamental things like format for supporting
> > frame pointer-less stack trace capture. It will take years to adopt
> > SFrame everywhere, so I think it's prudent to think a bit ahead beyond
> > just saying "no real application should need more than 4GB text", IMO.
>
> I don't think anybody is saying that...
>
> --
> Josh





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