CC Nadav and Jessica. On Mon, 2020-01-06 at 15:36 -1000, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > On Jan 6, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Edgecombe, Rick P <rick.p.edgecombe@xxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2020-01-04 at 09:49 +0900, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > > > > > On Jan 4, 2020, at 8:47 AM, KP Singh <kpsingh@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > From: KP Singh <kpsingh@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > The image for the BPF trampolines is allocated with > > > > bpf_jit_alloc_exe_page which marks this allocated page executable. This > > > > means that the allocated memory is W and X at the same time making it > > > > susceptible to WX based attacks. > > > > > > > > Since the allocated memory is shared between two trampolines (the > > > > current and the next), 2 pages must be allocated to adhere to W^X and > > > > the following sequence is obeyed where trampolines are modified: > > > > > > Can we please do better rather than piling garbage on top of garbage? > > > > > > > > > > > - Mark memory as non executable (set_memory_nx). While module_alloc for > > > > x86 allocates the memory as PAGE_KERNEL and not PAGE_KERNEL_EXEC, not > > > > all implementations of module_alloc do so > > > > > > How about fixing this instead? > > > > > > > - Mark the memory as read/write (set_memory_rw) > > > > > > Probably harmless, but see above about fixing it. > > > > > > > - Modify the trampoline > > > > > > Seems reasonable. It’s worth noting that this whole approach is > > > suboptimal: > > > the “module” allocator should really be returning a list of pages to be > > > written (not at the final address!) with the actual executable mapping to > > > be > > > materialized later, but that’s a bigger project that you’re welcome to > > > ignore > > > for now. (Concretely, it should produce a vmap address with backing pages > > > but > > > with the vmap alias either entirely unmapped or read-only. A subsequent > > > healer > > > would, all at once, make the direct map pages RO or not-present and make > > > the > > > vmap alias RX.) > > > > - Mark the memory as read-only (set_memory_ro) > > > > - Mark the memory as executable (set_memory_x) > > > > > > No, thanks. There’s very little excuse for doing two IPI flushes when one > > > would suffice. > > > > > > As far as I know, all architectures can do this with a single flush > > > without > > > races x86 certainly can. The module freeing code gets this sequence > > > right. > > > Please reuse its mechanism or, if needed, export the relevant interfaces. > > > > So if I understand this right, some trampolines have been added that are > > currently set as RWX at modification time AND left that way during runtime? > > The > > discussion on the order of set_memory_() calls in the commit message made me > > think that this was just a modification time thing at first. > > I’m not sure what the status quo is. > > We really ought to have a genuinely good API for allocation and initialization > of text. We can do so much better than set_memory_blahblah. > > FWIW, I have some ideas about making kernel flushes cheaper. It’s currently > blocked on finding some time and on tglx’s irqtrace work. > Makes sense to me. I guess there are 6 types of text allocations now: - These two BPF trampolines - BPF JITs - Modules - Kprobes - Ftrace All doing (or should be doing) pretty much the same thing. I believe Jessica had said at one point that she didn't like all the other features using module_alloc() as it was supposed to be just for real modules. Where would the API live? > > > > Also, is there a reason you couldn't use text_poke() to modify the > > trampoline > > with a single flush? > > > > Does text_poke to an IPI these days? I don't think so since the RW mapping is just on a single CPU. That was one of the benefits of the temporary mm struct based thing Nadav did. I haven't looked into PeterZ's changes though.